EVE General Discussion

So now that we have one epeen measuring system which is apparently harming the game, the solution is to spend dev time developing a second such system in the hopes that it will encourage a small number of players who might be doing some harm to a largely theoretical potential audience to play a little differently?

And yes, I know it's just an example system, but the goal you are designing for is essentially self-contradictory, so you're going to have to do better than an example which attempts to solve a problem by adding a slightly different version of the cause of the problem.

And this is all under the assumption that the killboard stats are the end goal, and not just a nice side effect while derping around getting easy kills.

Dropping corp to avoid war is now an estamblished playstyle?

If we agree on the fact that NPC corps should be gone, why do you argue so much to support them?

Ah so when its someone attacking your stuff, they need to be made to play "sensibly" from your point of view, but the idea of guarding your transports is wacky, alien and silly for you. Got it.

Also, Corp Management 1 is not hard to train. NPC corps are for the lazy.



Oh trololol. You seek to have NPC corps removed by ecouraging people to use them? Dont talk rubbish.

Ill buy that for a dollar. +1

I don;t disagree, but then, again, that's never going to happen without other changes occurring at the same time to balance out combat in highsec.

Let me ask you this. If CCP said they were going to make that change but only if they a the same time made it easier to stay safer in player corps, would you accept that? Or must you have your cake and eat it too?

I'm not sure I'd be okay with being safer in player corps to be honest. I ran my own one man player corp for years because I truly felt that I should be held accountable for the consequences of my own actions and words, be it on the forums or in game. Granted for the most of that time I was a peaceful, asteroid munching, red cross shooting awarebear, so I really didn't **** very many folks off.

Most of my opinions when it comes to safety in high sec are actually based off of the eight years plus I spent as a carebear doing carebear things. Only in the last couple of months have I discovered how much fun it can be to interact with others on a pvp level in this game. I used to despise pirates and pvp'ers way back in the days before I came to grips with the nature of EVE. Then I actually started to read the forums, pay attention to who was who, and what they actually had to say. My hatred dissipated as I started to comprehend that I had misunderstood the nature of the game from the start.

I now instead of seeing basement dwelling sociopaths everywhere saw that it was a myriad of people from all over the world playing a pvp game and simply enjoying all of what it had to offer. I had chosen to be a victim with the mentality with which I approached the game. I'd been infected by Everquest, Earth and Beyond, and the Gygaxian paradigm. In short, I had been trying to approach EVE as a themepark rather than a sandbox.

I'm better now. Hell, most of the time I don't even let you troll me too much, but I have my moments of weakness. You know I favor the dark and gritty side of EVE, hell you've made me go all honeybadger over it in the past. I just want our newbies to have a realistic understanding of what it's all about out there, and our vets to have the spine to stand up for what they represent. No hiding in the shadows for the established, face the consequences of your actions, or um, you know... STFU if you're not willing to back what you say with blasters, missiles or autocannons n laz0rz.

Whatever you say Kell, either you cant read or your just a half decent troll.

So Ill lodge the ole troll report and leave it at that.

Have fun ripping your new players off and watchign them get killed thanks to your terrible advice and even worse attitude.

Yes, because telling them the most effective way to avoid all wardecs permanently is terrible advice! From an NPC corp the only thing you need to worry about is ganekrs and rats, both of which can be tanked.

If someone really really wants to gank you, there is no tanking it. They just need to scan you and bring enough to do the job.

No tanking. You are quite correct. Avoidance due to situational awareness is still possible, however.
This still requires the intended victim to be at keys, and actively engaged in the activity of trying to remain alive. This is to many an arduous task that is simply far more difficult than bitching about dying on the forums.