Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You must have the Ship Maintenance Bay for fleet/Corp Members to refit their ships' fitting (and also carry other ships). depending on your selected authorized users. The Fleet HANGAR is where they can store items/modules/ammo to be used with a refit. The Nestor's Ship Maintenance Bay's primary usage would be for you to refit your ship.

Having one and not the other hurts.... But at least with the Ship Mainenance Bay, those pilots who may carry a couple of modules in their own cargohold would still be able to refit it with the Nestor's Ship Maintenance Bay....

e.g. A drake in your fleet which is currently fitted for EM/Kin resists as their focus finds him/herself in a fight with Exp/Therm ammo being used primarily. (S)He gets close to the Nestor's Ship Maintenance Bay can then refit his/her own shield hardeners to what they want. If the Nestor has a Fleet Hangar, then the Nestor can carry the items for the Drake to use. This can be done on site with the fleet, rather than having to go back to a system with a station if you aren't in one.

The problem lies with the Modile Depot... Any ship with a large enough hold can carry it and then the fleet could use it. That's the point CCP wanted when they created it, so I'm not sure why there's such a focus on the Nestor having one.

The idea is that the ships the Nestor is supporting won't have to use 50m3 of their cargo space holding their own depo, nor have to waste the 90s it takes to online the depo by bringing the Nestor. If you're going out to explore/do fleet things with the Nestor as a support ship, you want the cargo space spare for people to loot/salvage more things.

True... I'd forgotted that the mobile depot is for Launch For Self only.... Good point. If it was a Launch for Corp, then it'd be a different story....

Emphasis mine. For those who keep asking "What role do the devs want the Nestor to fill?" It's about the clearest answer to that I've seen.

I see this, but...

The increased sensor strength is nice; however, I believe that the hull as a whole should be reviewed to reflect this sentiment as fully as possible.

I'm a Nestor fan, and want to see this vessel become something unique and fun to fly.

I don't personally think that the proposed changes to the hull (in moderation, not all of them) would do anything other than re-introduce a great hull that had a role to play in groups of many sizes, without completely making obsolete existing hulls.

I want to say thanks to everyone who's participated so far in the conversation and I look forward to working together to present idea's that are reasonable and desired by the community to the CCP team.

-Regards

Nope, you can refit off of the Nestor. Tried it out on the test server to make sure.

Did a quick review of ships that have a ship maintenance bay...

Orca, Rorqual, carriers, super carriers, titans, and now the Nestor

What else do they all have in common (except for the Nestor at the moment) ?

Warfare links...

Did a bit of asking around and the nestor is the only non-missile BS that you simply cannot get into an incursion fleet with. If anyone has, please evemail me the fit.

As far as the nes and hacking, I've ran across one person that uses it for hacking COSMOS but otherwise I've heard nothing on it bieng used elsewhere for the same.

Exploration ships should be reasonably fast and agile, or at least middle of the pack. This....thing needs help. The bonuses remind me of a T3 I set up in eft while drunk.

switching to shield and armor rep bonus rather than just armor (Or have SOCT release their shield BS counterpart), instead of giving it bastion, set it up with a triage version of a bastion that increases rep range, tank and a bonus to rep cap usage would be beneficial.

it's 5am, sorry if I'm a bit scattered.

I am a long long term Nestor fan, and can tell you there actually there is a fit for a VG Nestor, and if you have the ISK it's possible to fit it for a HQ too, as a DPS ship, not as a logi (VG is currently the only place a nestor can logi viably without changing the current way Incursion FCs run them).

I'm currently not logged into EVE to send you the fit. You'll get a lot of FC's who moan or whinge about it, and you HAVE to have close to perfect drone skills (Sentry and racial spec to 5) before it becomes legitimately viable but it is possible.

At the moment the VG and HQ Nestor can out DPS and out maneuver the staple armour BS Napoc. It's additional rep bonuses mean if there is any panic moments in your fleet where you need extra logi help the Nestor can fill the gap amply and then some.

If your fleet needs a hacker or ore dropper it's speed and relic hack can fill both those roles!

The Nestor has really weird agility problem after you guys messed with the mass, particularly when a propulsion module is turned on.

I hate to say it but I wish you guys would do something more for it to focus it a bit. As a drone boat its not really exciting because it gets the vanilla 50% damage/hp bonus and nothing else. To be exciting it needs tracking or drone range or drone speed or something. As a laser boat its particularly bizarre, because it doesn't have that many turrets and it doesn't have a damage bonus. There is no way it's efficient to stick heat sinks on there and focus on lasers. As a rep boat it has terrible scan resolution even for a battleship and no accommodation for capacitor. Not to mention the gimp range compared to a logi. For added ***** and giggle that 2.5 warp speed is a major tease. Its not fast enough to keep up with the cruiser roaming gangs like a Machariel but its like halfway there. Making it possible to fit off it in combat is interesting, but its an entire new direction again. In fact the ship is so scattershot that the slot layout almost encourages you to ignore the armor bonus and fit shields. You get a respectable tank and you can actually comfortably fit a full set of damage mods.


Stop throwing new abilities at this ship until people like. Figure out your vision for the thing and make it good at being that.