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Loot theft using Mobile tractor unit's

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Beringer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-08-27 11:17:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Beringer
If someone steals loot that is marked as my property using a Mobile tractor unit, the said individual gets a "suspect" flag.
My question is: If I attack and destroy the Mobile tractor unit that he is using to steal my loot won't I get a suspect flag as well?
Damon Messer
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-08-27 11:19:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Damon Messer
Unless CCP changed it, MTU's do not tractor in yellow wrecks.
Christian Lionbate
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-08-27 11:24:06 UTC
Why worry, set yourself free and shoot everything Big smile
Beringer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-08-27 12:02:56 UTC
Yeah that's just silly. It's one thing to retaliate for theft and wholelly another to offer my "butt" to a gang Ra** by Concord.

Leeching corps use low level alt to steal loot and salvage, and wach Concord stomp anyone that tries to get his loot back. It's acctually easy to shoot the thief but the leeching corp allways gets it's loot/proffit since it's stuffed in a MTU.

I don't have a problem with people storming me and steeling my loot, salvage and remains while in Wh, Null or low. Good for them, they got me and earned it. But in HichSec the leecher corp is actually protected by the HighSec protection system.



Damon Messer
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-08-27 12:14:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Damon Messer
Beringer wrote:
Yeah that's just silly. It's one thing to retaliate for theft and wholelly another to offer my "butt" to a gang Ra** by Concord.

Leeching corps use low level alt to steal loot and salvage, and wach Concord stomp anyone that tries to get his loot back. It's acctually easy to shoot the thief but the leeching corp allways gets it's loot/proffit since it's stuffed in a MTU.

I don't have a problem with people storming me and steeling my loot, salvage and remains while in Wh, Null or low. Good for them, they got me and earned it. But in HichSec the leecher corp is actually protected by the HighSec protection system.





Um no? When somebody steals loot, the thief get flagged as suspect(aka yellow flashy), which makes him a legal target. You should definitely shoot him for stealing your loot. Show him that you're not a pushover!
Xuixien
Black Echelon
#6 - 2014-08-27 12:22:31 UTC
Beringer wrote:
Yeah that's just silly. It's one thing to retaliate for theft and wholelly another to offer my "butt" to a gang Ra** by Concord.

Leeching corps use low level alt to steal loot and salvage, and wach Concord stomp anyone that tries to get his loot back. It's acctually easy to shoot the thief but the leeching corp allways gets it's loot/proffit since it's stuffed in a MTU.

I don't have a problem with people storming me and steeling my loot, salvage and remains while in Wh, Null or low. Good for them, they got me and earned it. But in HichSec the leecher corp is actually protected by the HighSec protection system.


I don't think you know what you're talking about.

You don't flag suspect if you salvage (unless they changed that), nor do MTU's tractor yellow loot.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#7 - 2014-08-27 14:41:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Beringer wrote:
Yeah that's just silly. It's one thing to retaliate for theft and wholelly another to offer my "butt" to a gang Ra** by Concord.

Leeching corps use low level alt to steal loot and salvage, and wach Concord stomp anyone that tries to get his loot back. It's acctually easy to shoot the thief but the leeching corp allways gets it's loot/proffit since it's stuffed in a MTU.

I don't have a problem with people storming me and steeling my loot, salvage and remains while in Wh, Null or low. Good for them, they got me and earned it. But in HichSec the leecher corp is actually protected by the HighSec protection system.
Your ignorance of game mechanics is astounding.

Mobile tractor units won't do anything that will get you flagged, that includes sucking up yellow wrecks.
If someone else steals your loot they go suspect, you should definitely shoot at them if you want to see explosions.
Concord will not roll up on you if you shoot someone for stealing your loot.
Salvaging other peoples wrecks is a legitimate playstyle in Eve, and doesn't incur any flags.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-08-27 17:20:33 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Beringer wrote:
Yeah that's just silly. It's one thing to retaliate for theft and wholelly another to offer my "butt" to a gang Ra** by Concord.

Leeching corps use low level alt to steal loot and salvage, and wach Concord stomp anyone that tries to get his loot back. It's acctually easy to shoot the thief but the leeching corp allways gets it's loot/proffit since it's stuffed in a MTU.

I don't have a problem with people storming me and steeling my loot, salvage and remains while in Wh, Null or low. Good for them, they got me and earned it. But in HichSec the leecher corp is actually protected by the HighSec protection system.
Your ignorance of game mechanics is astounding.

Mobile tractor units won't do anything that will get you flagged, that includes sucking up yellow wrecks.
If someone else steals your loot they go suspect, you should definitely shoot at them if you want to see explosions.
Concord will not roll up on you if you shoot someone for stealing your loot.
Salvaging other peoples wrecks is a legitimate playstyle in Eve, and doesn't incur any flags.

Jonah is correct. The MTU will steal blue wrecks (which are legal for everyone) but will not touch yellow wrecks. Once it has scooped loot, you would have to shoot it to get the loot back (minus what ever blows up with the MTU), but doing this will flag you suspect. Which is fun. I actually recommend it, it's a great time.

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Faylee Freir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-08-27 17:31:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Faylee Freir
I have found that the best course of action is to shoot him. Most people that steal mission loot will be scared off when challenged with a fight. Show him that you won't be messed with by shooting him when he goes suspect.

I can actually help you practice some basic skills necessary when engaging a suspect-flagged thief. If you want some tips or help just contact me.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-08-27 17:40:11 UTC
Faylee Freir wrote:
I have found that the best course of action is to shoot him. Most people that steal mission loot will be scared off when challenged with a fight. Show him that you won't be messed with by shooting him when he goes suspect.



Such is the path to enlightenment.

So say we all.

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-08-27 17:46:17 UTC
Speaking of enlightenment, see below:


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1 oz Grand Marnier
Garnish with Spearmint Life-Saver

Mix ingredients in a lowball glass and stir. Serve with life-saver attached to glass.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#12 - 2014-08-27 18:53:51 UTC
Faylee Freir wrote:
I have found that the best course of action is to shoot him. Most people that steal mission loot will be scared off when challenged with a fight. Show him that you won't be messed with by shooting him when he goes suspect.

I can actually help you practice some basic skills necessary when engaging a suspect-flagged thief. If you want some tips or help just contact me.
Confirming that this always results in an explosion.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Faylee Freir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-08-27 19:08:26 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Faylee Freir wrote:
I have found that the best course of action is to shoot him. Most people that steal mission loot will be scared off when challenged with a fight. Show him that you won't be messed with by shooting him when he goes suspect.

I can actually help you practice some basic skills necessary when engaging a suspect-flagged thief. If you want some tips or help just contact me.
Confirming that this always results in an explosion.

Yeah those mission thieves are easy to pop.
Christian Lionbate
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-08-27 20:26:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Christian Lionbate
Beringer wrote:
Yeah that's just silly. It's one thing to retaliate for theft and wholelly another to offer my "butt" to a gang Ra** by Concord.

Leeching corps use low level alt to steal loot and salvage, and wach Concord stomp anyone that tries to get his loot back. It's acctually easy to shoot the thief but the leeching corp allways gets it's loot/proffit since it's stuffed in a MTU.

I don't have a problem with people storming me and steeling my loot, salvage and remains while in Wh, Null or low. Good for them, they got me and earned it. But in HichSec the leecher corp is actually protected by the HighSec protection system.





My friend, you speak like any of these internet pixel things have value. They don't, splode them then splode some more. If concortd become a problem PM Cannibal Kane, he's the reason Mr T and Chuck Norris stick to WoW.
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#15 - 2014-08-27 20:45:24 UTC
Faylee Freir wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Faylee Freir wrote:
I have found that the best course of action is to shoot him. Most people that steal mission loot will be scared off when challenged with a fight. Show him that you won't be messed with by shooting him when he goes suspect.

I can actually help you practice some basic skills necessary when engaging a suspect-flagged thief. If you want some tips or help just contact me.
Confirming that this always results in an explosion.

Yeah those mission thieves are easy to pop.

[/jedi wave]
Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite
CODE.
#16 - 2014-08-27 22:11:26 UTC
This thread is so fail that its win.

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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#17 - 2014-08-28 12:15:51 UTC
Christian Lionbate wrote:

If concortd become a problem PM Cannibal Kane, he's the reason Mr T and Chuck Norris stick to WoW.


Sir, that is the best comment i've read in ages.

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#18 - 2014-08-30 04:16:17 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Beringer wrote:
Yeah that's just silly. It's one thing to retaliate for theft and wholelly another to offer my "butt" to a gang Ra** by Concord.

Leeching corps use low level alt to steal loot and salvage, and wach Concord stomp anyone that tries to get his loot back. It's acctually easy to shoot the thief but the leeching corp allways gets it's loot/proffit since it's stuffed in a MTU.

I don't have a problem with people storming me and steeling my loot, salvage and remains while in Wh, Null or low. Good for them, they got me and earned it. But in HichSec the leecher corp is actually protected by the HighSec protection system.


So many things wrong here:

1) CONCORD doesn't shoot you for going suspect.
2) MTUs don't tractor yellow wrecks.
3) Even if they did, it would be assumed that the owner of the MTU would go suspect, which removes the protection you're complaining about.

and the big one

4) HS is not safe space. Never has been. Never was meant to be. It is space with higher costs for aggression.

And you should absolutely shoot thieves. You're in a battleship, they're in a frigate. What are you afraid of?

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