Ships & Modules

Sell the nestor and buy something else.

[Nestor, Oneiros]

Centum B-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Capacitor Power Relay
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier

Shadow Serpentis Sensor Booster, Scan Resolution Script
Imperial Navy Cap Recharger
Shadow Serpentis Remote Tracking Computer
Shadow Serpentis Remote Tracking Computer
Shadow Serpentis Remote Tracking Computer
Shadow Serpentis Remote Tracking Computer

Centum A-Type Medium Remote Armor Repairer
Centum A-Type Medium Remote Armor Repairer
Centum A-Type Medium Remote Armor Repairer
Centum A-Type Medium Remote Armor Repairer
Centum A-Type Medium Remote Armor Repairer
Centum A-Type Medium Remote Armor Repairer
Auto Targeting System II

Large Remote Repair Augmentor II
Large Remote Repair Augmentor II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II


Curator II x5
Garde II x5
Heavy Armor Maintenance Bot II x5
Heavy Shield Maintenance Bot II x5


Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-806


stats (Level 5)
6m28s with everything on, 35m with 1 repper off
82/77/77-68.2 110K EHP with boosts
77.2/70.4/70.4/59 88.9K EHP w/o boosts

700 paper dps with Curators
743 paper dps with Gardes

faction stuff besides RARs and tanking mods can be substituted with T2 equipment for start :)


Ludus, IIC

Ludus fitting is ok, it is a slight variation of the OIC Nestor setup, geared to more cap life. The OIC nestor got zero cap mods and not a single CCC, just stacks 3 T2 RRAs since it is always used in combination with remote cap transfer hulls(not really necessary with good cap and RR management, but the option is there) and more applied drone DPS with 1-2 Omni links.

I for myself didn't use my Nestor much in the last couple of months, given that we more and more tend to do just solo Logi setups(more out of DPS shortage than anything else honestly) that can also handle utility roles like hacking/ore dropping and scouting(5.2 AU/s logi) and a the damage intake on the nestor, even with a close to 77% explosive as lowest resist was to high to be sustainable by a single RR BS over multiple minutes(the Oneiros needs just 1 RR on it, what is fairly easy to sustain even over a full site like when it takes the agro in the 2. NCO wave) what is a must for me when I do tandem Logi+Marauder RR setups. I can give it a another try a solo logi with the changes, but I don't think that the changes with the signature and speed would be sufficient enough to make it a option over the Oneiros in solo Logi VG setups.

Overall it is ok if you look for a static logi with a bit more dps in a 2 logi setup, not really worth the price tag in my opinion but I guess that is another story. The to high signature, lack of cap recharge, lack of speed and lack of RR remote rep range however make it far less practical in a utility solo logi fitting or when you look beyond VGs and at more mobile fleet concepts. I was actually hoping for a bit more fleshed out changes, giving the nestor a considerable buff in at least one area to finally make it more focused for specific tasks, but I guess I expected to much. It is a interesting alternative to the Oneiros for some tasks but the price tag is considerable(not just the hull but the fitting to) and if you are really into high end Logi fittings and piloting you will be probably disappointed when it comes to fittings that can do much more on grid than just putting some RR on stuff every 15-30s.

A T2 large RR fitting is rather overkill, given that a single Oneiros is sufficient to hold everything together in VGs(on a char with zero cap implants, fully geared to on grid speed/warp speed and utility), even while face tanking the sites and using 1 slot tanks with just 3-4 dps on grid. In the end the nestor is simply not really good a solo logi, given the reasons above, what makes stacking RR/s far beyond Oneiros/Guardian capability's rather pointless. The reason I went away from large reps on the hull itself was that a fitting like this is rather inefficient, by requiring to many cap mods to run it comfortable while in the end there isn't even a real application for it since everything beyond 1300-1500 dps RR tank, doable by a single Oneiros is more or less a waste in a solo Logi scenario(with 3 T2 RR from a BS as backup for losing boosts, disconnects or other problems), even more so if you look at fleet concepts with 2 Logistics in VGs. At least that's how it is currently for OIC fleets and given James likes to demonstrate how high end Logistic is done in Helix by fielding considerable less than other fleets, he should be able to understand my point of view. Given that nearly every Nestor you see in the wild uses the A type medium RR instead of large ones, being build around the OIC setup concept that I made public back then because I didn't like the overall opinion about the hull and her capability as Logistic, it is a save bet that others also came to the conclusion that a large RR fitting is not really practical. The low opinion about it back then was probably mainly a result of rather ineffective setups people tried out back then.

Btw James, the tank of the active nestor would be not sufficient outside of very high dps fleets, since by it's huge signature it requires around 2k dps tank applied to keep it up under full agro, while your setup only provides 850 dps active tank, I know this from practical experience on grid, having issues to keep it topped up with 3 T2 RR from my Paladin during Logi disconnects(what is a nightmare in sustainability, even on a Paladin), what is the equivalent of 2k applied RR and my normal solo Oni fitting that can keep it topped up applies 2.85k tank able dps after resists on my Nestor fitting(2 A-type EANMs, DCU II). I for myself as FC wouldn't be really comfortable with it fitted like this on grid, because I normally don't take any chances on any hull on gird, especially not on Logistic hulls.