EVE General Discussion

EVE should last until downtime.


Sometimes not even that long..

I hope very long time !!

Don´t forget it´s a sandbox, which means at least 70% of the content is made by the players, this means us.

As Core said, Eve is very unique because it is a NICHE game we can either enjoy or hate, and believe me I'm in it for the long run ahead! *Salutes Corebloodbrrothers!*

I can agree, you care, I care, we ALL care about Eve overall. Irregardless of all the whining and crying and trolling there are those of us who want to see this universe we all love go onwards.

Let me just quickly consult my Mayan Calendar pocket edition, yes yes it covers this, EVE will end in exactly one minute :)

I'm going to have to disagree with you on that.

The original dev's and I know there are still a few around Hi TomB! (he was lurking a few months ago so might still be here) may have had vision but a lot of times that dreams were either incomplete or left to rote. I can list a ton of things that were either scrapped and said they would do later, or turned out to be horrible horrible ideas that took years to rectify.

A ton of 'Jesus features' were left unfinished, with promises of coming back to fix them, while ccp then shifted efforts to the next great feature. This is the mentality that has caused the mess we are currently in.

Adding new stuff is great, but when you leave the new stuff to fester in broken or incomplete states, then it might be best to not even issue the new stuff.

PoS's for example were a good fix for the lack of stations in null, but I don't think they should of been combined with sov. That was a mistake, and prolly caused PoS' to not have there functionality change in a long long long time. PoS' came in 2004, and were not changed until at least 2011 with the addition of fuel blocks. And they have remained in states that are difficult to use or even work with easily in places like WH null.

Comet mining, system wide belts, atmospheric flight, Ambulation, PI being more then a click fest, FW, Titans, System Sov, Constellation Sov, Regional Sov, Gate guns, Treaties, the list goes on and on of things either promised but never made for one reason or another, or were made but were so severely broken that it took years to rectify. This thought of 'the good ol' days' is always a tad nearsighted, as you forget what it was like dealing with crap back thing.

As a 10 year vet, I much prefer the releases of today, where I don't have to worry about if I should log into even in the next month as they try to fix bugs and lag. Or if a feature I am excited about, comet mining, is going to scrapped in the 11th hour because they can't do it.

CCP's issues have always been pitching the world but only giving you a small country. So when CCP shifts to realistic perspectives and essentially starts turning eve into EvE 2 people whine of stagnation and game death.

I guess a lot of noobs, and even some vets don't have perspective anymore, or they have forgotten what it was actually like. Grinding towers, pos spam wars, etc were nightmares of themselves.

My point, from my perspective the current state of eve was because things were neglected, due tot he mentality of new is better forget the old stuff we will fix it later. Well welcome to later, everything needs to be fixed, or they can not move forward.

SC, and ED have the luxury of not being out yet. Beta and alpha are fine and dandy, but I have seen games have huge hype and people drooling in alpha and beta, only to see then die a quick death a few months after release.

Both however are good for CCP. Competition is always good, and I suspect Valk, Legion will give ccp a good cash boost just before ED and SC become full games, and if EvE suffers CCP will be able to make drastic changes in a short time with the new release model. Anyway, my point is, the past is never as rosy as people think it was. Because they forget how much of a pita stuff was when compared to todays pita.

Seriously? This again. Ugh. I guess it really comes down to just how small they can downsize without fully collapsing, once the price of plex gets too expensive for many players to bother buying them ingame, the plex market crashes, and people don't need to resub for many months.

Going by eve-offline's all-time PCU it hit a plateau years ago. Got something else to go on?
Also, Crius was the first rework of the fundamental industry mechanics since the game launched and there still remain some untouched original mechanics (as far as I know), so EVE 2 at best, although EVE 1 was heavily expanded.

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For some reason I pictured Dr. Zoidberg saying this.