Player Features and Ideas Discussion

If omnidirectional tracking links boost tracking from ship then it would make sense for tracking disruptors to affect them also.

I guess I was just looking at countering the module... Not necessarily drones themselves. If the module did not exist then the idea would be pointless as they viewed as semi solitary systems.

I think this idea makes slightly more sense with the increased numbers of drone modules, bringing them more into line with turrets and missiles. That said, drones are countered by killing the drones. This is sufficient counter IMO, until/unless drones get a wave of buffs.

Afterburner's, Nano's, Overdrive's


Warp Core Stab's


...you've got me there.


If the effect was restricted to only reducing the effects of Omnidirectional mods/Nav Comps, then I would be all for it.

Came expecting request for Tracking Disruptor to affect drones directly, as they currently don't apparently.

Am disappointed to see a call to water down drones intended strength of being resistant to ewar with another poorly thought out call to have drones be shut down by ewar on host ship.

Drones should be as vulnerable to ewar, individually, as any other ship. That is their intended strength, part of what they pay for by being eligible for individual explosion. On the level of each drone individually is where this fix needs to take place.

TL;DR: tracking disruptors are good enough as they are - this requires new anti-drone modules. Also, death to supers.

This idea seems similar to the idea of tracking disruptors affecting missiles. We neither need nor want to have one single answer to all possible DPS from any weapon ever, lest every PvP ship in EvE would fit one or even 2 of these, and everyone would armor tank to free up the mid slots to do so. Even ECM strength is divided into racial varients to prevent it from being too OP. Seeing as drones can circumvent every current form of EWAR through assist capability, I would agree that there does need to be an EWAR module counter to drones.

The ability to shoot drones is, in itself, an insufficient counter. Most droneboats carry at least 2-3 full flights of drones; at what point have you done enough total damage to kill the ship you are fighting rather than just several of its drones? Consider carriers also, which could potentially launch seemingly endless flights of sentries (213 flights of 15 sentries to be exact). By this logic, drones are additional tank for your own ship that also deal damage and entirely eliminate the DPS of your enemy until you are out of drones.

I suggest at least one of the following 2 modules, which can be used to reduce enemy drone control range or bandwidth. Of course, with new modules also comes the potential for future hull bonuses:

Drone Range Inhibitor: Fittings similar to Remote Sensor Dampeners. Does not use scripts. Reduces enemy drone control range by 15-30% depending on skills/item meta, and subject to stacking penalties. By reducing control range, much like RSD's, enemy fleets can be forced into comfortable engagement range, or forced to disengage.

Drone Control Inhibitor S/M/L: Fittings similar to similar sized MWD with low cap usage, limit 1 active per ship with meta levels increasing range. Reduces enemy bandwidth by 5/10/25 Mbps. This flat-out reduces DPS. By losing control of drones, or being forced to launch smaller drones, the reduced DPS can be seen as an analog to tracking disruption.

In the interest of also impacting the power of supercaps and producing a larger role for subcaps on the field, I would also suggest allowing the large module to get through supercarrier ewar immunity. I would also suggest that all applied modules beyond 20 will reduce a super's bandwidth by 100, due to their very large total bandwidth. In this instance, 1-20 large DCI's would reduce the number of fighter-bombers controlable by 1, 21-25 by 2, 25-30 by 3, and taking 86 battleships to totally eliminate a super's ability to launch fighter-bombers (though honestly at that point, better off picking off the drones than using this ewar -so maybe tinker with these numbers a bit if this suggestion is considered valid).

tracking disruptors do affect drones you just have to apply them to the drone