EVE General Discussion

What do you mean... ' you people ' ??

Why does the CCP legal team work with CCP staff instead of CSM? Can't we drop restrictions for this particular environment?

I Disagree.

While current day society we might (openly) frown upon slavery and the concept of 'owning' people, the desire of mankind to accumulate wealth and 'own' all kinds of things hasn't changed.
While there are certain groups of people around that abolish the concept of ownership or wealth accumulation (for example Amish, certain monks and religious groups) most of mankind continues to desire ownership and capitalism runs rampant.

Throughout RL human history slavery has been a pretty constant occurrence and it's only been recently that we've striven to completely abolish it. It would make sense for a fictional world where groups of people are cut off from their homeworld (the New Eden wormhole collapse) would revert back to slavery.

Do not think us so enlightened as to be able to not revert back to slavery were '****' ever to 'hit the fan'.
If you look realistically at current day society and certain anarchistic movements you'd realise slavery is still alive and kicking, only now we call it something else. Workers are owned by their employees. Citizens are owned by their government (which in turn is owned by those wealthy enough to lobby said government into submission).

Greed and desire of private ownership will always facilitate and lead to slavery. Until human nature itself changes, this will not change. The only thing we've learned so far is how to mask this slavery better and pretend it is something else.

IMO it's like the term "mudbloods" in Harry Potter. It's racist, but it's completely make-believe, so it's not "bad". It's used as an example to demonstrate the unpleasantries of racism.

If I play a pirate, that doesn't (necessarily) mean I'm a murdering psychopath in real life. If you steal money in EVE, a cut-throat world built on deception, that probably doesn't make you dishonest in RL.

Similarly, if I play an Amarr supremacist of some kind, that doesn't make me racist in real life, because I'm essentially role-playing an imaginary bad guy.

I don't really role-play, but Arkus did do missions for the Amarr Empire that involved killing slaves. As a result, I see him as a cold, calculating man who'll take all but the most abhorrent jobs for the cash. He probably sees the Minmatar as traitors, given his Amarr upbringing.

This stuff only crosses the line if you start using real life racist or derogatory language, or really abuse people for no reason with no intelligence or tact.

Tassin, you are probably right. I could have personally contacted the individual/s.

You know what would happen, I'd get cussed at, flipped the bird, told to mind my own business, etc., and then I'd cuss them back as I sank to their level. So, I just avoided all that, hoping that CCP would step up to the plate. They did not.

thanks

-Kirst

You're all forgetting:

Amarr get these badass jedi robes.

#amarrprivilege

This ↑↑↑↑ implies that racism is the action of a bad guy.
The last racist skinhead i saw in Sydney, Australia was in 1994. He was mid thirties, looked intelligent and fit. Squatting looking at the main strip in town he looked wistful, thoughtful and defeated. All kinds and colors of people walking around without a care in the world.
Those people went invisible and wouldn't dare assemble on a streetcorner the way they used to in the 80s, punching whites for walking with 'others'. They were not convinced to put away the costumes and regalia by reason, or well thought out arguments, or appeals to their better nature and human decency. Their victims, mainly asians, applied foot to buttock at every opportunity and in great numbers.
Society regulates behaviour with consequences, just like CCP does. I have always loved this corner of the internets that is largely clear of sectarian static.
Grrgewns

Oo oh please. And apparently you have a case of immature.

Considering that the Amarr Empire is twice the population of all four of the other main races, combined, white folks are actually a minority.

And, to be fair, Squids are half-Japanese/half-German, so they're not even really white.
And, aren't Gallente a mix of French, English, and all the Mediterranean ethnicities? I guess that's white-ish. But, not really, because Italians, Greeks, Turks, and whatever people from Monaco are called.... not white.
Minmatar are black Vikings. I don't even understand how it's physically possible to hate them... but, since when do Amarrians make any bleedin sense?

As long as I can still call Caldari "fish-eating squirrel bastards", we're in good shape.

Yeah CCP really throws us for loops with the lore behind these races. Every attempt to compare them to a RL race or nation fails too. I have given up on understanding them years ago.