Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Even if the price was 500mil, I would still buy a bunch of domis instead of a nestor. This ship just flat out sucks in its bonuses, which have literally 0 cohesion with each other. Laser range, but no laser cap/tracking/dps? Combined with drones, which also don't get any bonuses to tracking/optimal/falloff? With some rr in it just cuz why the **** not? So what we have is a rring, drone, laser boat that can't really do any of these roles very good. Incidentally the cap on it makes rring very hard. It just does not make sense why the players would legit want to fly this ship.

That would either make for the hardest T1 ship to train into or give you the ability to use jump drives w/o jump skills lets ignore the lore aspects with some one operating a jump drive with no knowledge of how they work and only a small understanding of basic navigation and move onto the game-play side of either jump drives usable with no skill or a function of a ship locked untill a skill is reached

you understand that the jump drive is not a module right its part of a BLOPs like its warp drive and it is this jump drive i'm referring to not the bridge

Thought you were only talking about bridging but putting the secondary skill of Jump Drive Operation 1 in as a pre-requisite wouldn't bother me for a T1 ship with a covert jump drive.

The BC hull will be the ship that people could turn to before the Nestor.

This is how nestor can be used in wormhole space after patch.

Role: day-tripping into WH space, ninja-looting sleeper sites.

How:

Put zephyr into ship bay.

Find a chain of c5-c4 wormholes.

Use the probing bonus on the nestor to probe down the signatures.

Warp to each one @100, check if there is a talocan - microjump away to warp off if tackled.

If there is a talocan, use zephyr to bookmark spot next to talocans (leave nestor in space for a minute)

Warp in with a nestor on top of the talocan, hack it while tanking (big buffer (3-4 plates), cap injectors, resists). You should hack talocan in a minute tops, nestor has a bonus to it. Big buffer will tank for long enough, c4-c5 sleepers only do 500dps on first wave. Loot talocan, use cap injector, microjump out, warp out.

Repair in safe spot, rinse, repeat, move on to new wormhole.

I do exactly this only i use a passive nighthawk with MDJ, cap injector, and relic analyzer. I admit I probably would switch to nestor just because of hack bonus - last night for example i pulled 6 server banks with a nighthawk, but hacking in a non-bonused ship sucks, even in max-skilled toon. I also have alts for probing, bookmarking, etc., and I do server banks only if there is a big concentration of them in my chain, normally i do c6 sites., but for a day-tripping character who does NOT have alts, POS, etc., totally viable. 4 talocans will give about 200-300mil in loot. 4 Server banks can be found in an hour. in a chain. C4 sites nobody ever does as well, and they have talocans as well.

I suppose 200-300 mil per hour is decent earnings, ship will pay for itself in 3-4 hours of work.

The only risk is leaving the ship in mid-space to use the zephyr to bookmark the talocan. In c5 server banks you dont really have to, you can bookmark a piece of wreckage 4km away, but in other sites you have to slowboat to it under webs, so bookmarking is a must.

You can also put other nestor bonuses to work. For additional income, you can clear some sleepers while you hack. laser range to guns means you can use Large Pulses (dual heavy) with conflag to hit those pesky cruisers orbiting at 30. So smartbomb frigates away with 1 bomb, then pull out drones to assist with clearing last cruisers.

Do this, and its extra 20-30mil income per site.

Its very interesting, but the range of dual heavy pulse guns with conflag is almost IDEAL for clearing cruisers at 30. And the DPS is better then a tengu.

I think this is what nestor is supposed to do in PvE. But the twist here is that its supposed to do this with a passive buffer tank. Triple-plated and triple-trimarked, it has a very big buffer. certainly big enough to last a few min in a site and shoot the cruisers. 250k EHP, 50k raw armor @ 75% resists. Thats 4-5 minutes of life in a c5 site easy, if youre not clearing sleepers.

The only trick is capacitor management and power grid; so 4 medium cap injectors loaded with 200s will keep you cap-stable through the neuts while you fight or hack, and loaded with 800s will inject enough juice to let you microjump out.

You are not using the RR bonus im afraid, but, it is what it is.

Definitely viable.

What wormhole do you live in? I'd like to come visit.

Roughly how fast will a Nestor be with a MWD now that its already-low mass was gutted?

So your saying 2x drone DPS compared to the other subcapital ships would make it usefull, who would have thought...

Geckos already do around 2x the dps compared to heavy or sentry drones, and is balanced by the fact that they take 2x the m3 and mb. Also balancing a ship around limited edition drones is not realy a good idea

The ship might have gone a different route if it had sensor damps and neuts. Branch out of SoE theme and go EWar. Drone logistics bonus might have been a neat twist. Add some better cap regen also. More mass for plate friendly. Targeting ghost site theme instead of WH would be a lot easier for a BS. Range bonus for hacking would be necessary though... Looting container might be tough though.... Maybe site should have jettison 1 can with a decent timer so you can tractor beam it...

Why would SOE goes out of their own them when creating a ship? Do Amarr go outside of Amarrian theme and use projectile weapons and hybrids? No, they stick to primarily lasers, and secondary missiles..... Do Caldari go outside of their theme and use armor tanks? No, they primarily stick to shield tanking.....

If you want a ship outside of SOE theme.... to go to the market... there are many non-SOE ships, with non-SOE themes.....

Sisters Of Eve are primarily for exploration/etc. Focus the Nestor's buffs for that with its battleship tanking/weapons.