EVE General Discussion

This is called "overthinking a situation", and by a large margin it seems. This was a group holding an event, that's all.

it's not the 1st time, hell there have been tournaments on Sisi before (I participated in one), that didn't make Tournaments on EVE go away, it didn't change ccp's policy in any way.

It's like you (and a couple others) are reaching for an excuse to worry about and/or dislke something when no reason for that reaction exists.

ITT guy is upset that event organisers made it impossible for him to **** up the event.

The Great Karnak predicts a push for arenas and some emulation of "instancing" through jump gate mechanics.

I've never had a big issue with the concept of implementing a dueling type of mechanic on a larger scale specifically designed to allow relatively risk free tournaments on the main server, providing it was done with care and not allowed to become a means of affecting the "core reality" of the game... just as we have sporting events such as javelin throwing or boxing where combat skills are tested with (usually) no fatalities in real life.

Such a mechanic would have to be carefully thought out, and simply might not be worth the development time... especially since it could be construed to go against the "stark and brutal" rep that is EVE's claim to fame.

However if demand for it became widespread the developers would probably devote some cycles to it.

But just as tournament play hasn't disrupted mainstream EVE game play for the last 12 years I hardly think this is a trend at all, let alone one that will unravel the fabric of the EVE universe. Events like this on the test server have happened before, and will happen again.

Strangely enough, I respect your opinion Mr. Epeen , but I'm going to have to call this one a tempest in a tea cup.

Tranquility? Im selling all my stuff and moving to this test server.

What's stagnant is this arduously narcissistic Mittani cult. It continually demonstrates the major flaw with the internet. Even a chimp can do it while claiming to be The Divine.

Looking back on it - from whence did this SOV arise? As I recall, and correct me if I err, it came about when null sec players were grousing about having no content specific to them. It seems all the shine had departed the simplistic attack-your-neighbor and blow up his station aspect of so-called End Game. Something "else" was desired.

When the "new" SOV system was introduced, it looked to me like an elaborate form of the old game Capture the Flag. Rather than bring the enemy flag back to base, you sit on it until a timer ticks off. I thought it was a clever game within a game, but personally I never thought such a pass time would entertain the EVE null sec crowd for very long. And, apparently I was correct.

Now it seems null sec has achieved yet another form of stasis. BoB nullifying a huge chunk of null sec was one such form of stasis. People were confined to a small area and the goings on there soon became rote, then blind repetition. This seems to be the case now with the vaunted Blue Donut we hear so much about. This is why I'm not convinced the SOV system in and of itself is what's causing the dissatisfaction in the null sec players.

To tell you the truth, I'm not sure they know what the trouble actually is. I say that by way of extrapolating; should some sort of change be implemented, is there something being overlooked that will drive even that change into a point of stasis? (Each of these points having different causal factors, but resulting in the same stagnation of activity.) And, I've given this a lot of thought. In this "player generated content" environment, are we seeing the limitations of the players' imaginations?

Like with this Mittani stuff. This is all "we" could come up with? This is the content generation? If it is, then, EVE's fundamental failure can't be repaired by CCP without changing the basic structure of the activities involved - moving away from relying on the players for content generation. It may well be PvE is the only changeable aspect of this sort of gaming. The PvP reduces itself to the same repetitive and fatally boring set of activities regardless.

I know nobody wants to hear such a thing, but it has to be taken into consideration. "Just fix SOV" doesn't seem to have the weight (if you catch my drift.)

So afraid of losing carebear time they blue everyone around them "forcing" them to shoot targets that don't shoot back, and now they're afraid of losing carebear isk so they choose to pvp on the test server. That's hilarious.

Not so strangely I also respect yours. I don't always agree but I know that you put thought into what you write instead of spouting platitudes or following the crowd.

I'd say it'll be a minimum of six months before we find out if this is a tempest in a teapot or not. It'll either gain momentum in that time and we'll see it trending or it'll just die out as a rare thing that happens once in a while. I've seen so many things start just like this that end up becoming a catalyst for change. From my perspective, all the historical signs are there.

But no sense arguing it now. Wait six months and hit me with an "I told you so" if it turns out I was completely out in left field with my prediction. I'll do the same for you if the opposite happens.

Mr Epeen

It could be done on the live server with 1 basic solution:

- Script security to KOS and pod anyone and everyone not in the list of competitors within the bounds of the competition space, when the event begins.

The logic for such coding could be done by a college CS freshman.

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Well then, you need to figure out how to get the isk in game on the live server, play the game as intended. Have some of the large corps sponsor the tourney and donate isk so players who cannot afford it can participate. Those players can interact with others and get sponsors...figure out something. No player created content should be allowed to happen away from the main server.

If CCP allows this then they may as well make the test server the new player server so the new players can have the cheap ship perks and avoid the risk/reward thing as well. But that would be a drastic change in the way the game is played.

I don't know, if CCP allows this they should just make the test server the pve content server, why not, shouldn't everyone who wants to bypass live server mechanics be allowed to?