Warfare & Tactics

Killing haulers and non combat ships is weak and should not even be considered PVP. I would not boast or even post kills.
Is it not like eating the ear off of the chocolate easter bunny, only to find out it is hollow?

As a Vet, I don't give a crap about the isk loss. I am very concerned however with those that "PVP" (if that is what you call it)
and the empty feelings they have when they really didn't accomplish anything.

I am considering forming a support group and/or a foundation for those that choose this lifestyle. Post your support, send funds, discuss or maybe even send funds to your killer.

Cyboman 07

I feel like somebody lost a hauler in low sec and is upset about it. As a fellow vet, I feel that these losses serve an important purpose. If you are running a hauler around in low sec, don't jump blindly about without scouting ahead. People who lose Charons and such in low sec have a tendency to learn from their loss and not take courier contracts and such that go in to low without a Jump Freighter from that point forward.

Is there a player In it when it explodes.....if the answer is anything other than no then its pvp.

I don't think he ment it wasn't a viable tactic, of course it is. But it is not pvp in the sense that it's any kind of battle where both sides shoot at each other. I would only brag about the loot I got not the kill itself.

You mad bro?

You *clearly* don't have a clue what 'leet peeveepee is, scrub...

< / sarcasm >

Cyboman, I know its hard once you've been punished not to feel bitter initially but if you stick to The Law you'll find yourself a happier, safer, and code-compliant capsuleer!

When a hauler is fitted with expanded cargoholds II only he shouldn't complain about getting ganked. In fact it support the risk/reward comparison. Neglect defense and you run a higher risk of getting ganked while having the reward of a larger cargo bay. Working as intended in my opinion.

ok its 2 in the morning, im wired on coffee and im in a philosophic / analytical sort of mood for some reason. Lets get started shall we?

PVP is by its own nature formless and unpredictable.
It knows no bounds and sits just beyond sight, swirling in the dark.
waiting, watching, remembering for the moment it takes to strike. Its when people attempt to create barriers, seal away parts of the beast that you realize just how impossible the task is. It comes in the form of solo combat, Gang warfare, blobs, ganks, and an infinitesimal number of other forms such as market PVP, manufacturing PVP, PVP for the best asteroids even. To cage it would be to stem the flow of the rain itself, a task so monumental it is impossible to complete.

Even if you sit docked in a station it takes the seat next to you in your quarters, a whisp of cold air on an august night. You see it in competition for offices, for goods in station, for the very LP its agents offer you. Meanwhile the beast swirls about outside the station waiting, watching, remembering. When you undock you take it with you like the clothes on your back or like a disease that swims through the very blood coursing through your veins.

So how is it anyone could deem something so massive, shapeless, and beyond comprehension legitimate or illegitimate? The fact of the matter is WE are the beast so long as any of us draw breath it lives on, growing stronger for a time, and other times slipping into silence letting the music play in the background. And if we are the beast does that not make US illegitimate or legitimate in our own right? All of us whether alone or together have a right to be, and so the beast is our passenger, our guide. It shepherds us through danger or evil; or sometimes delivers us to it. as in many depictions of the divine it takes with one hand and gives with the other.


So fight it, seek to eradicate it or sanctify yourself from it for it makes no difference. The beast lives inside of you as much as it does me if not more, and inside of everyone you meet. But know that to fight it or to cage it is to fight all of us and yourself at once, a universe allied against you in service of a cause. you may gather strength in numbers, you may seek comfort in companionship but it comes for you none the less. A tide as unstoppable as the wind in the trees or the howling storm at sea.

The Beast is you.
The beast is me.
The beast is here.
The Beast is Eve.

I second this notion. Without nonconsentual PvP, PvE players would eventually fall into the delusion that they are playing a safe game free from threat. They would grow to believe they could fly ships, even ridiculously risky industrials/haulers, without escort or intel into whatever space they wished, free of repercussions.

Now, I don't PvP (I am just a delivery man) but I respect those who do.