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CCP cashing in on faction standings.
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TheSock H
M and M Enterpises
#1 - 2014-08-20 03:05:42 UTC
CCP have cashed in on security status, when are they going to do the same for faction standings?
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2014-08-20 03:06:51 UTC
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#3 - 2014-08-20 03:07:13 UTC
TheSock H wrote:
CCP have cashed in on security status, when are they going to do the same for faction standings?


Ha ha, there have been tags for faction standings for literally years.

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TheSock H
M and M Enterpises
#4 - 2014-08-20 03:16:37 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
TheSock H wrote:
CCP have cashed in on security status, when are they going to do the same for faction standings?


Ha ha, there have been tags for faction standings for literally years.


Tags for faction standings?

Do you mean the one time only agents that do next to nothing (might take them from -8 to -5) for faction standings?
Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#5 - 2014-08-20 03:19:14 UTC
TheSock H wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
TheSock H wrote:
CCP have cashed in on security status, when are they going to do the same for faction standings?


Ha ha, there have been tags for faction standings for literally years.


Tags for faction standings?

Do you mean the one time only agents that do next to nothing (might take them from -8 to -5) for faction standings?

Yes, the agents that essentially allow you to buy a storyline mission. Are you suggesting that anything that takes effort in Eve be for sale on the open market?
TheSock H
M and M Enterpises
#6 - 2014-08-20 03:31:33 UTC
Derrick Miles wrote:
TheSock H wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
TheSock H wrote:
CCP have cashed in on security status, when are they going to do the same for faction standings?


Ha ha, there have been tags for faction standings for literally years.


Tags for faction standings?

Do you mean the one time only agents that do next to nothing (might take them from -8 to -5) for faction standings?

Yes, the agents that essentially allow you to buy a storyline mission. Are you suggesting that anything that takes effort in Eve be for sale on the open market?


By "anything that takes effort" do you mean ships, ammo, POS and the like not be on the open market?

Why not have something that takes effort be on the market, like tags that fix security status for instance, sure you can rat for hours to get enough so you can head to lowsec safely, but why would you if you can afford them?
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#7 - 2014-08-20 04:03:53 UTC
One of the reasons Gallente/ Minmatar space has lower populations than Caldari/ Amarr is the original mission choice was Caldari/ Achura + CNR. People killed their Gallente/ Minmatar running missions and there is no way to resolve the standings. There are a few band-aid options but if you got Gallente to -8.00 a few times over grinding ISK in Caldari level 4's you are forever banished from Gallente and Minmatar space.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#8 - 2014-08-20 04:20:16 UTC
Ocih wrote:
One of the reasons Gallente/ Minmatar space has lower populations than Caldari/ Amarr is the original mission choice was Caldari/ Achura + CNR. People killed their Gallente/ Minmatar running missions and there is no way to resolve the standings. There are a few band-aid options but if you got Gallente to -8.00 a few times over grinding ISK in Caldari level 4's you are forever banished from Gallente and Minmatar space.


run a few SoE storyline missions. BAM fixed. I know there is a lv4 SoE agent in caldari space, dunno about storylines though. There is also a lv4 agent in Amarr space with a storyline agent next door.

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Ocih
Space Mermaids
#9 - 2014-08-20 04:57:12 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Ocih wrote:
One of the reasons Gallente/ Minmatar space has lower populations than Caldari/ Amarr is the original mission choice was Caldari/ Achura + CNR. People killed their Gallente/ Minmatar running missions and there is no way to resolve the standings. There are a few band-aid options but if you got Gallente to -8.00 a few times over grinding ISK in Caldari level 4's you are forever banished from Gallente and Minmatar space.


run a few SoE storyline missions. BAM fixed. I know there is a lv4 SoE agent in caldari space, dunno about storylines though. There is also a lv4 agent in Amarr space with a storyline agent next door.


SOE are for repairing Sec. The only SOE missions that end in a faction boost is the 3 month epic arc set that sends you in to all 4 factions to complete. If you have negative with two you get to do those missions with navy shooting at you on every gate.
Bryen Verrisai
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-08-20 06:57:14 UTC
Ocih wrote:
The only SOE missions that end in a faction boost is the 3 month epic arc set that sends you in to all 4 factions to complete. If you have negative with two you get to do those missions with navy shooting at you on every gate.

That's why you have an alt/friend do the missions while you tag along in a pod.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-08-20 08:01:12 UTC
what the hell is this post?

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Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#12 - 2014-08-20 08:07:30 UTC
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Belesia Velorea
The Fiendish Pixies
#13 - 2014-08-20 10:13:49 UTC
Why does CCP need to do it when players out there already offer services to do it? If you want to fix your standings go seek them out and pay them your iskies.
David Therman
#14 - 2014-08-20 11:14:54 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Ocih wrote:
One of the reasons Gallente/ Minmatar space has lower populations than Caldari/ Amarr is the original mission choice was Caldari/ Achura + CNR. People killed their Gallente/ Minmatar running missions and there is no way to resolve the standings. There are a few band-aid options but if you got Gallente to -8.00 a few times over grinding ISK in Caldari level 4's you are forever banished from Gallente and Minmatar space.


run a few SoE storyline missions. BAM fixed. I know there is a lv4 SoE agent in caldari space, dunno about storylines though. There is also a lv4 agent in Amarr space with a storyline agent next door.


SOE are for repairing Sec. The only SOE missions that end in a faction boost is the 3 month epic arc set that sends you in to all 4 factions to complete. If you have negative with two you get to do those missions with navy shooting at you on every gate.


I'll disagree with this, SOE storylines do indeed bump your Gallente standing up (and to a lesser extent, Minmatar) because of the derived modifications (Gallente being 8.0 with SOE, or vice-versa). And I'd know, I've been grinding them for the past 2 months... Ugh
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#15 - 2014-08-20 11:43:51 UTC
Derrick Miles wrote:
Are you suggesting that anything that takes effort in Eve be for sale on the open market?
I would agree with that.

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Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-08-20 12:12:47 UTC
We've been invaded. Where's mom's credit card when you need it?
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Ocih
Space Mermaids
#17 - 2014-08-20 14:49:01 UTC
Bryen Verrisai wrote:
Ocih wrote:
The only SOE missions that end in a faction boost is the 3 month epic arc set that sends you in to all 4 factions to complete. If you have negative with two you get to do those missions with navy shooting at you on every gate.

That's why you have an alt/friend do the missions while you tag along in a pod.


Saying it again though, these are convoluted, band-aid solutions to Faction repair. My situation is the opposite. My original character is Gallente and while I don't give a toot if I can go to Jita I really don't want to lose access to Amarr travel lanes. As such I can't really run missions anymore.

I made a suggestion in F&I to have pirate dog tags used as tokens for an NPC bounty hunting system. Rather than direct trade of an item for standings like the Sec tags, allow quick missions on all factions based on their pirate dog tags. I'd prefer to build in content rather than create manufactured Sec. Content that isn't first and foremost an ISK grind. Like content is right now.
Leoric Firesword
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2014-08-20 17:49:27 UTC
helpful hint: skip the faction missions
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The Troll Bridge
#19 - 2014-08-20 19:33:20 UTC
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Garai Nolen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2014-08-20 20:59:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Garai Nolen
Belesia Velorea wrote:
Why does CCP need to do it when players out there already offer services to do it? If you want to fix your standings go seek them out and pay them your iskies.


Yeah because that argument worked to stop them from removing POS standing requirements despite in-game services providing precisely that as well.

As to the OP, I'm 100% in support of a "tags for faction standing" model identical to the tags for security sec model. Something that lets you repair your standing back to 0.0 with each faction for ISK/tags so you can fix whatever mess you might have made of your standings owing to CCP's somewhat schizophrenic take on faction standings over the years. But to increase it above 0.0 (where you actually get some benefits in market trading, etc.) would still require grinding it out the old fashioned way.

EDIT: Bonus points if acquiring these faction tags initially actually requires high faction standings to begin with, returning some of the benefits recently stripped away to those who actually bothered to grind out high standings for whatever various reasons.
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