Warfare & Tactics

Interesting...

Setting aside the issue of getting in on killmails easy, it seems, on the surface, that logi would be the weakest tactic. (Again, "on the surface". I know very little about logi).

DPS: objective is to blow them up before they kill the target.
EWAR: keep them from doing any damage at all, or minimizing their damge before Concord pops them.
Logi: give the target ship more EHP.

Logi doesn't appear, at first look, like it would be able to counter the amount of incoming dps that the Catalysts put out. They are doing something like 400dps each. A T1 medium remote armor repper does, at base numbers, something like 32hp repaired per second.
Even if you've got enough cap to constantly run 3 of those on a cruiser, you're not even negating the dps of just one Catalyst.

This doesn't mean that logi is a bad way to solve the issue, but it does show how the numbers may lead people to believe it's an ineffective method as opposed to EWAR or just raw DPS against the aggressors.

What I'd like to know is what I'm missing here in regards to logistics, as to how it *can* be made effective in this circumstance.

News to me

Perhaps focus on your scissor technique and not propaganda

Confirming that Loyalanon, myself, and every other member of the CODE. alliance has either quit or is in the process of quitting due to not beable to handle DrysonBennington's sadness about how hard we won in the Alliance Tournment.

Please, tell us more. Scissor me timbers!

Confirming I have quit Code to awox. Also confirming I will find like minded individuals in the corps and recruit them to form a newer stronger Code. I am sure that people will see the light of Code while I ransom their ships and my neutral logi keeps me virtually invulnerable.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that Dryson is actually just a troll. He is likely an alt of Loyalanon trying to generate forum content. If this is the truth it is working and is awesome. If it is not then Dryson is surely mad, and not the angry kind.

Edit: typing on phone = fail

You're overlooking a few things:

1. The target's resists work for the remote repper, and against the incoming DPS. Say a target has 25% resist to an incoming damage type. 100 DPS being done is reduced to 75 while 100 RPS (reps per second) is increased to 125. Each 1% of resist gives a 2% relative advantage to the remote reps.

2. Logi cruisers get bonuses to remote rep amounts. At Cruiser IV, it's a 50% bonus to RPS. I have Caldari Cruiser V, and a large remote shield repper puts out over 100 RPS.

3. The remote reppers don't have to completely overcome the incoming DPS. Really, they don't even have to come close. All they have to do is add enough EHP to the target to throw off the ganker's DPS calculations. The gankers will have, at best, 20 seconds to apply damage before CONCORD kills them. The target doesn't have to live at full health, it just has to live.

Of course, all any of this will do is keep the target alive long enough to be ganked again, and unless the "White Knights" bring enough reps to completely rep the target back to 100%, all they're doing is delaying the inevitable. And, as I've said before, the best counter to suicide ganking will always, 100% be to not be a target. But given current game mechanics, I do really feel that remote repping is the best counter to massed suicide ganks in progress.



I agree that ECM would be very effective against a small gank squad because 1-2 ECM ships can just spread all of their jams evenly. Against a JF-sized gang though, you'd need to start calling targets in order to get jams spread effectively, and getting everything picked, locked, and jammed in 20 seconds seems like a stretch. A really well-coordinated group may be able to pull it off, but the same group in logi cruisers would, I think, have a much bigger impact. Plus, there's the fact that ECM is chance based, whereas remote reps are a sure thing.

With tools like evewho, scuttlebutt like this can be dispelled in about 10 seconds.

I checked snopes.com about loyalanon leaving CODE. but couldn't find anything.

Without going into very specific details (though they would be funny) - I can tell you that Dryson is actually serious and not simply a New Order troll trying to generate content.

For a fun example: internal communications from "secret" anti-ganking groups pledging their financial / material support on the sole condition that Dryson is never allowed to FC, lead, or in any way be promoted to any type of leadership role.

For a more fun example: Fun loving EVE players who LOVE to PVP against code and enjoy a "GF" with us, and don't get all weird and personal about spaceship pew pew pew literally begging me on voice comms to just "Please, please, figure out a way to recruit Dryson and get him to leave our groups - we are worried he has literally lost his mind and his forum posts sure do not help"

So, yeah, Dryson is that magical combo. Totally serious and totally ineffective with VERY strong opinions and no sense of fun. Never a LOL, never a "GF" in local - just sadness, hurt feelings, rage and clever ideas such as the tech 2 Noctis for "high-sec belt ratting", the mighty "Scissoring Technique", and my personal favorite: the demand that CCP buff freighters right now due to his spaceship lawyer skills :P

My day always gets a little brighter the second I see a new post or reply from him anywhere. I always leave with a smile on my face and that wonderful feeling that only comes from enjoying a good bout of laughter! :)

*edit: Really feeling the lack of new ship types created by him posted in Features and Ideas as of late. I hope Dryson knows that simple to the ISD's shutting down his most recent one all of 3 mins after posting that many of us are still here, wanting more!