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Michal Jita
Lords Of The Universe
#1 - 2014-08-16 02:00:38 UTC
I am running some reactions that the outcome is Intermediate Materials - Hexite, Unrefined ... and others
I now face the problem of not being able to sell these in Jita.
Now before I run any complex reactions, I was wondering if once I do i will be able to sell them in large quantities or do I need to produce t2 components?

Anyone has get any experience in that matter?

Anyone open to cooperation around here?
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-08-16 07:08:29 UTC
The advanced moon mats sell in huge quantites in Jita. The built T2 components, not so much. The intermediates I can't help you with.

But you could just check the market history for the item and see that for yourself.
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-08-16 10:01:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Nalha Saldana
Simple reactions aren't that good money for those who don't mine, so those who want to just have a complex reaction will buy intermediate materials. I used to buy tons every week.

Another option is to run a 3 large tower reaction, 1 with simple reactions that feed 2 complex.

You have all the math on my spreadsheet (except the new reactions, will add those soon)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Av6bUJhtOy5qdHJQSGNtMzk1bmpwOFZZZkdXOU53OGc#gid=0
Veinnail
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-08-17 05:07:33 UTC
advanced materials will sell in jita, yes the chain to provide the market can get spendy.
Bramson
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-08-17 05:14:11 UTC

I would produce Complex Reactions and sell on market.

I personally purchase the Complex Reactions and don't bother with buying intermediate and reacting them myself. At least in complex form most t2 producers will be purchasing them.

~B
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-08-17 07:43:40 UTC
Michal Jita wrote:
I am running some reactions that the outcome is Intermediate Materials - Hexite, Unrefined ... and others
I now face the problem of not being able to sell these in Jita.
Now before I run any complex reactions, I was wondering if once I do i will be able to sell them in large quantities or do I need to produce t2 components?

Anyone has get any experience in that matter?

Anyone open to cooperation around here?


They sell in Jita.

Not all of them are profitable if you have to buy the raw moongoo. Running towers is NOT free and tower fuel costs will be a big part of your cost.

Raw goo + tower fuel needs to cost less than the output. This is not always so, especially if you pay full price for the fuel. Alliances get 25% tower fuel discount in sov space and this means goo reaction farms in sov 0.0 have an advantage.
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-08-18 10:37:37 UTC
Complex reactions with bought materials in a large POS have very little profit left but it allows you to run other things at the tower for free. I ran a wh pos for a long time to do t2 production and the reactions payed for the fuel.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#8 - 2014-08-18 19:00:11 UTC
OP, you have chosen the 3rd most wasteful moon reaction in the game. Gross/mo = 69M isk. POS fuel for a medium Gallente POS = 227M isk. You are losing 158M isk per month doing that.

Unrefined Hexite is one of only 2 alchemies that return absolutely nothing. It loses money at every stage. You will never be able to make money doing this.

Sulfuric Acid uses the same inputs and breaks about even. If all you're looking to do is pay for your POS fuel, then that is the way to go.

If you actually want to make a little money, find a moon with Evaporite Deposits and Silicates and make Silicon Diborite. That will net you about 133M per month.

If you're dead set on running alchemies, I suggest finding a couple untowered R16s.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Michal Jita
Lords Of The Universe
#9 - 2014-08-19 04:47:12 UTC
Soldarius wrote:
OP, you have chosen the 3rd most wasteful moon reaction in the game. Gross/mo = 69M isk. POS fuel for a medium Gallente POS = 227M isk. You are losing 158M isk per month doing that.

Unrefined Hexite is one of only 2 alchemies that return absolutely nothing. It loses money at every stage. You will never be able to make money doing this.

Sulfuric Acid uses the same inputs and breaks about even. If all you're looking to do is pay for your POS fuel, then that is the way to go.

If you actually want to make a little money, find a moon with Evaporite Deposits and Silicates and make Silicon Diborite. That will net you about 133M per month.

If you're dead set on running alchemies, I suggest finding a couple untowered R16s.


I'm sure I can handle the fuel bill, and looking at lowest sell prices I am preaty confident I only run profitable reactions.
The only thing is, I do have lowest sell orders for a lot of things, but no one is buying them!

Unrefined Prometium = 1m3 for 41 Prometium and 96 Cadmium (if refiend at Minmatar Outpust with Scrap metal lvl5), put it on the market at below prices of BUY for the refined products and no buyers. Its one of the best things for moon goo compresion out there and no takers, thats the bit that worries me, thats why I posted here to get opinions on what to make.

Unrefined Fluxed COndensates - 1m3 for 41 units of Fluxed Condensates again on the market below the price of buy now for output of reprocesing and no takers.

Yes I know I can run them back to 0.0 reproces and send back to Jita in form of the output material, but its a lot of m3, it still might not sell, and most of all anyone interested in prometium or fluxed condenstaes (or any other) should realy pick them up as they are the king of compresion.

Your views on this?