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Old earth found!!! covert mission idea

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lordlotus
Black Rabbits
Black Rabbit.
#1 - 2014-08-16 12:40:09 UTC  |  Edited by: lordlotus
Old earth - covert missions

You the capsuleer must face a whole new race that has made their home in our birthplace ,far more advance and still very unknown nothing we throw at them even makes a scratch so we must slowly infiltrate them and gather information in the hope of finally getting back what was once ours.

Objectives:
Find and collect 5 pieces of alien tech without being detected by hostiles before the way back closes for good leaving u stuck
if you die in the old earth solar system you will be sent back to your nearest clone and may not return till a new gate is open ,bring all the tech you have collected to the portal back to new Eden and claim your reward.

- incursion spawn pattern
-entrance fee of 1mil concord LP
-HS ls NS all gates lead to same system
-only 40 pilots allowed in system at one time (billboard at gate showing current number of pilots inside)
-special new gate design leading to old earth
- solo, fleet is disabled while inside
-covert class ships only ,fitted with hacker, expanded probe launcher and of course a covert cloak
-way back De-spawns in 2days by itself ,24 hours till concord can setup new gates
-inside 5 different hacking sites will spawn after 1 hours of gate being open they will appear as a signal
and must be scanned
-way back is only open if you have the mission goods
-only 1 set of 5 mission goods exist within spawn at a time
-if a pilot dies with mission loot in hold it will re-spawn in a new sub site
-players must fight and find out who has what they need or work in team to get out with there ship and
dignity intact.
-when a new gate spawns players stuck inside from the last spawn may take part again
-rescue randomly placed refugees of old earth for bonus rewards
-alien hostiles are not affected by any of our attacks they will kill a pilot instantly
-alien hostiles will be placed randomly in sites, stay cloaked till they leave
-alien hostiles will detect pilots and warp in if there are more than 2 pilots within a 100km radius of
each other uncloaked
-alien hostiles will pod kill



REWARDS:
ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK
ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK
ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK
ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK
ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK ISK
and more isk :-)
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#2 - 2014-08-16 12:55:32 UTC
No.

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.

Ix Method
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-08-16 14:21:25 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
No.

Thankyou for saving us the effort.

Travelling at the speed of love.

Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#4 - 2014-08-16 14:28:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Linus Gorp
I see.. As much clue of the lore as you have of the English language.
And no, I didn't read past the first sentence.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-08-16 14:30:52 UTC
One, Earth is supposedly over a galaxy away.

Two, if there was any life there it would be the Terrans, and they would be advanced enough their shuttles could solo a null mothership incursion

Three, No aliens, ever. Aliens in Scifi are only ever parodies and extremes of human emotions/ideologies, Star Trek being a prime example that everyone copies, all it does is take away from any REAL depth in lore/story and replace it with "these guys are bad because their species is inherently evil, and these guys are good because they are inherently beautiful little snowflakes, no exceptions". EVE's entire premise is HUMAN conflict, whether that is in story, or by player interaction, introducing aliens of ANY kind becomes "us vs them", and therefore changes the foudning principle of the EVE story.

Four, No.
lordlotus
Black Rabbits
Black Rabbit.
#6 - 2014-08-16 14:57:44 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
I see.. As much clue of the lore as you have of the English language.
And no, I didn't read past the first sentence.


So I missed a few grammar classes ,but we are not here to focus on my education.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliteration did you perhaps mean illiterate? http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/illiterate

If you don't like the idea that's fine there is no need to get personal :-)
lordlotus
Black Rabbits
Black Rabbit.
#7 - 2014-08-16 15:21:53 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
One, Earth is supposedly over a galaxy away.

Two, if there was any life there it would be the Terrans, and they would be advanced enough their shuttles could solo a null mothership incursion

Three, No aliens, ever. Aliens in Scifi are only ever parodies and extremes of human emotions/ideologies, Star Trek being a prime example that everyone copies, all it does is take away from any REAL depth in lore/story and replace it with "these guys are bad because their species is inherently evil, and these guys are good because they are inherently beautiful little snowflakes, no exceptions". EVE's entire premise is HUMAN conflict, whether that is in story, or by player interaction, introducing aliens of ANY kind becomes "us vs them", and therefore changes the foudning principle of the EVE story.

Four, No.



*1 There was once a gate open from there to New Eden you don't think the people of New Eden could develop the tech to do it again?

*2 In my version of the concept the terrans are in slaved ,but it could be changed to be the old world humans being evolved or something like that.

*3 aliens have been used in some missions in before in eve and also doesn't mean they have to be lizard people or little grey or green men.

*4 Thanks for the criticism to the idea and not trying to put me back in English class :-)

Komi Toran
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-08-16 16:12:35 UTC
lordlotus wrote:
You the capsuleer must face a hole...

We get shovels and fill it. End of mission.
lordlotus
Black Rabbits
Black Rabbit.
#9 - 2014-08-16 16:21:46 UTC
Komi Toran wrote:
lordlotus wrote:
You the capsuleer must face a hole...

We get shovels and fill it. End of mission.


LOL again people just want to point out mistakes in grammar and spelling that last one was a good one though.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-08-16 16:29:06 UTC
**** no. Terrans enslaved? Hahaha, that made me laugh... You do know that the technology of Terrans is that advanced that it makes the Jove and Sleepers look like a bunch of cave men.

We cannot "repair" the hole that brought Humans to New Eden since it doesn't exist anymore, the wormhole collapsed on itself and even if we had the technology to bring us back to Earth we wouldn't know what direction to hurl the space ship.
It wasn't a stargate that brought humans to New Eden, it was a wormhole.

Komi Toran
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-08-16 16:31:01 UTC
lordlotus wrote:
[quote=Komi Toran]LOL again people just want to point out mistakes in grammar and spelling that last one was a good one though.

The reason for that is that your idea was already posted in the one-line bad idea thread. You've simply fleshed out the joke more.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-08-16 16:35:51 UTC
lordlotus wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
One, Earth is supposedly over a galaxy away.

Two, if there was any life there it would be the Terrans, and they would be advanced enough their shuttles could solo a null mothership incursion

Three, No aliens, ever. Aliens in Scifi are only ever parodies and extremes of human emotions/ideologies, Star Trek being a prime example that everyone copies, all it does is take away from any REAL depth in lore/story and replace it with "these guys are bad because their species is inherently evil, and these guys are good because they are inherently beautiful little snowflakes, no exceptions". EVE's entire premise is HUMAN conflict, whether that is in story, or by player interaction, introducing aliens of ANY kind becomes "us vs them", and therefore changes the foudning principle of the EVE story.

Four, No.



*1 There was once a gate open from there to New Eden you don't think the people of New Eden could develop the tech to do it again?

*2 In my version of the concept the terrans are in slaved ,but it could be changed to be the old world humans being evolved or something like that.

*3 aliens have been used in some missions in before in eve and also doesn't mean they have to be lizard people or little grey or green men.

*4 Thanks for the criticism to the idea and not trying to put me back in English class :-)


1: No, the people of new eden COULDNT do it again, because the entire process not only required several tens of thousands of years more technological advancement than the new eden cluster has, but it required the ENTIRE Terran galaxy (new eden is just a simple star cluster) to unite in fear and desperation as they ran out to resources to build the gate to escape. On top of that, it required the original wormhole to be open in the first place, and after that wormhole kinda said "f-off" we dont really have it to work with anymore.


And besides, only one of two things would happen on the other side of the gate, both involve the other side being a barren wasteland

either A) the Terran Empire learned to make do with what they ahd to get by, recycling at 100% efficiency and whatnot, which means they maintained their Tech 10 minimum of technology (lets put it this way, CONCORD lorewise is below the Jove in technology, and CONCORD has the fear/respect of the empires as a whole, the Jove are but children compared to the technology of the Terrans)

or B) The terrans COUDLNT maintain their civilization, and slowly started tearing down ALL their technology in order to rework it into progressively simpler and more desperate technologies to stay afloat, before going extinct with barely the resources or equipment to build a simple toaster over the course of several thousand years.




And to touch back on the "why couldnt they do it again", for the same reason the USA cant get back to the moon, or the Concord Jet will never fly again, things that once were possible proved to not be economical, and now are impossible to accomplish due to the logistical nature of it (again referring to the fact we are a fragmented star CLUSTER, when the last gate was a near-universal effort of a whole galaxy)
lordlotus
Black Rabbits
Black Rabbit.
#13 - 2014-08-16 17:56:49 UTC
Lets change the gate to a wormhole that has opened to old earth solar system and spawns and unspawns throughout new Eden we go in and find our long lost planet still alive and kicking ,but oppressed by the technology they created , android beings
that have taken on a life of their own and sent out signals into deepest regions of space and who answers there calls ? the sleeper drones arrived to aide their fellow robots.

What ever the story the concept is to have a PvP arena where you are locked in a specific solar system( would be nice to have it be the old earth system ) with other players to collect a set of objects that together forms a key. a key back to freedom . a key to riches and reward.

Once you enter you can't go back until you win or die.

Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#14 - 2014-08-16 18:15:09 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
No.


EvE-Mail me if you need anything.

Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2014-08-16 21:48:06 UTC
lordlotus wrote:
Lets change the gate to a wormhole that has opened to old earth solar system and spawns and unspawns throughout new Eden we go in and find our long lost planet still alive and kicking ,but oppressed by the technology they created , android beings
that have taken on a life of their own and sent out signals into deepest regions of space and who answers there calls ? the sleeper drones arrived to aide their fellow robots.

What ever the story the concept is to have a PvP arena where you are locked in a specific solar system( would be nice to have it be the old earth system ) with other players to collect a set of objects that together forms a key. a key back to freedom . a key to riches and reward.

Once you enter you can't go back until you win or die.


2 problems wrong with your proposal, scratch that, 3.

1) you want a mechanic enforced arena system in EVE, thats a no go in any form
2) you keep wanting to work in "aliens" somehow, either mutants, or xenos, or androids, thats not what EVE is about, EVE is about humans with human problems
3) You want a completely "fair" ladder-play way to get isk and items, with arguably little unknown risks, no, again, not what EVE is about.
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#16 - 2014-08-16 22:00:10 UTC
I think the whole point of Old Earth is that we forgot about it and never ever wanted to go back. Because that just opens a bucket of worms.

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Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#17 - 2014-08-16 22:48:14 UTC
lordlotus wrote:

*1 There was once a gate open from there to New Eden you don't think the people of New Eden could develop the tech to do it again?

*2 In my version of the concept the terrans are in slaved ,but it could be changed to be the old world humans being evolved or something like that.

*3 aliens have been used in some missions in before in eve and also doesn't mean they have to be lizard people or little grey or green men.

*4 Thanks for the criticism to the idea and not trying to put me back in English class :-)


*1 The "Gate" was a WH that collapsed and can not be "reconstructed again" by having 'the technology" Shocked
*2 Its many millennia in the past, humankind as you think you know probably got extinct.
*3 Do I smell Bacon?
*4 Well °°

Which shows your ignorance about the whole issue which extends into the content you suggests.
lordlotus
Black Rabbits
Black Rabbit.
#18 - 2014-08-16 23:16:07 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
lordlotus wrote:
Lets change the gate to a wormhole that has opened to old earth solar system and spawns and unspawns throughout new Eden we go in and find our long lost planet still alive and kicking ,but oppressed by the technology they created , android beings
that have taken on a life of their own and sent out signals into deepest regions of space and who answers there calls ? the sleeper drones arrived to aide their fellow robots.

What ever the story the concept is to have a PvP arena where you are locked in a specific solar system( would be nice to have it be the old earth system ) with other players to collect a set of objects that together forms a key. a key back to freedom . a key to riches and reward.

Once you enter you can't go back until you win or die.


2 problems wrong with your proposal, scratch that, 3.

1) you want a mechanic enforced arena system in EVE, thats a no go in any form
2) you keep wanting to work in "aliens" somehow, either mutants, or xenos, or androids, thats not what EVE is about, EVE is about humans with human problems
3) You want a completely "fair" ladder-play way to get isk and items, with arguably little unknown risks, no, again, not what EVE is about.




Hmmm

1 eve is a massive mechanic based arena filled with more mechanic based arenas one more wont hurt
2 your right there it should have something different. how bout the humans are extinct there and we must collect clues as to recent happenings or old world memorabilia and then we find out that it was aliens that attacked earth LOL HA HA HA
3 fair ?ladder base ? little risk? i don't think you read to well "hey ?

The mechanic will force you into a situation where you will be on your own
one mistake will cost you to lose your ship and your pod
there can only be one winner each time a entrance spawns
if you did not die or win you will stay in there till you do one of both
I want hostile npc forces alien or human (really doesn't matter ) of some sort to occasionally interfere with pvp we can even make them beatable with loot drops
there is only 1 set of items so you will have to scheme , plan and fight to get them all in your hold
then make it back to the exit.


Its eve ,its your choice to go in or not :-)
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#19 - 2014-08-16 23:24:36 UTC
Your are confusing arenas with grids. And 'no' to arenas.

You are scratching on one of my ideas with one or two features, but I am not gonna tell you which - though I can say that mine adds new content with many options and interesting choices and absolute freedom of choice and not some highly complicated and restricted pretending-not-to-be-an-arena suggestion.

I'll shot this one down for what it is.

-1


lordlotus
Black Rabbits
Black Rabbit.
#20 - 2014-08-16 23:31:15 UTC  |  Edited by: lordlotus
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
lordlotus wrote:

*1 There was once a gate open from there to New Eden you don't think the people of New Eden could develop the tech to do it again?

*2 In my version of the concept the terrans are in slaved ,but it could be changed to be the old world humans being evolved or something like that.

*3 aliens have been used in some missions in before in eve and also doesn't mean they have to be lizard people or little grey or green men.

*4 Thanks for the criticism to the idea and not trying to put me back in English class :-)


*1 The "Gate" was a WH that collapsed and can not be "reconstructed again" by having 'the technology" Shocked
*2 Its many millennia in the past, humankind as you think you know probably got extinct.
*3 Do I smell Bacon?
*4 Well °°

Which shows your ignorance about the whole issue which extends into the content you suggests.



1 this a game ccp can just slap a skin on a temperate that looks like earth and a kwel gate that leads to a locked system
2 you are under estimating humans :-)
3 no
4 no

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