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Automatic bounties on player pirates

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#41 - 2014-08-14 18:00:30 UTC
Has anyone asked the OP to show everyone on the doll where the bad men touched him?




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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#42 - 2014-08-14 18:03:31 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Quality Scope posting, at it's finest.

Oh, and do it yourself, quit asking for the NPCs to do it for you.

Idk about anyone else, but the first thing I can think of is that killing yourself becomes free money if they give every neg ten a billion isk bounty.
I agree with you. Not because of your complete ignorance of how bounties work, though. Because of your second line. Bounties have always been, and should always stay, as player generated content.

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Tweek Etimua
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2014-08-14 18:03:52 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:

Child molestation isn't funny you idiot.
Tommy Knife
#44 - 2014-08-14 18:05:14 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:

Do you where port tanga?

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2014-08-14 18:10:44 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
I can say as a player with about 3 billion bounty on me that bounty is a very serious thing and I literally don't ever undock anymore due to "bounty hunters."

Oh wait.
When you hide in station all day ... there's nothing much to hunt anyway, noob.

When we can dock up and stare at your avatar, why would we ever want to leave?

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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#46 - 2014-08-14 18:13:15 UTC
Yet another ISK faucet to "bring life to lowsec". It's not 2012 anymore when we regularly had to check it's pulse.Lol
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#47 - 2014-08-14 18:34:08 UTC
Tweek Etimua wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:

Child molestation isn't funny you idiot.


No it isn't. You're absolutely right.
But carebear feelings-molestation usually is... and even then, only because a lot of them are ginormous hypocrites.

I wish all carebears were like Chribba and JNB.

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Trevor Dalech
Nobody in Local
Of Sound Mind
#48 - 2014-08-14 21:23:18 UTC
In my experience, pirates mostly die to other pirates. I have yet to see a bounty hunter in low sec. So giving bounties to all pirates means pirates get more bounty payouts. You're essentially subsidizing us so we can gank you more often.

Great idea! In order to keep ISK sinks and faucets balanced I suggest the bounties are paid for by a tax on the income/assets of positive sec players.
Netan MalDoran
Hail To The King
The Silent Syndicate
#49 - 2014-08-14 23:27:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Netan MalDoran
So, you're telling me that I can pirate other people, get a bounty, then kill myself with an alt and make instant ISK! YES, I WANT!

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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#50 - 2014-08-14 23:40:54 UTC
GOD NO. Get an alt, disco jita undock, then pod them whenever you want isk.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#51 - 2014-08-14 23:47:46 UTC
F&I ----->

Also no.

And I will add however, the bounty hunting system could use another rebalancing pass, and maybe some damn tools to make it a viable profession. Its close, but still not exactly there.

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Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#52 - 2014-08-14 23:53:28 UTC
I'd say no too.



However the bounty system needs an overhaul.

People giving bounties (minimum amount) to anyone just because their name appears in an in-game chat log is just plain silly.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#53 - 2014-08-15 00:09:17 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Tweek Etimua wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:

Child molestation isn't funny you idiot.


No it isn't. You're absolutely right.
But carebear feelings-molestation usually is... and even then, only because a lot of them are ginormous hypocrites.

I wish all carebears were like Chribba and JNB.


B-but think of the imaginary space pixel children!!! There should be a law about those kinds of joke because I can't handle a joke at all!!!!Roll

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#54 - 2014-08-15 00:15:33 UTC
Tweek Etimua wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:

Child molestation isn't funny you idiot.

Internet spaceship violence and the hurt feelings of disproportionately invested man baby's is though.
where did you get Child molestation from, relax.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#55 - 2014-08-15 00:20:33 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Tweek Etimua wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:

Child molestation isn't funny you idiot.

Internet spaceship violence and the hurt feelings of disproportionately invested man baby's is though.
where did you get Child molestation from, relax.


Its just buzzwords in order to illicit an emotional response from the sheeple.

Wait.. i think I posted something similar somewhere.. I cant for the life of me remember where.. it was somewhere torchy and pitchforky though.. that's for sure.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2014-08-15 00:55:07 UTC
Kotronis Georgios wrote:
How about CONCORD auto bounty pirates(players) depending on their -security.For example -5 =500mil -10= 1bill ech.ech
So low sec will spice up a bit Pirates go for easy/free kill on carebears but same time bounty hunters go after tthem.I think this will bring some life back to low sec.Bounties can be adjusted with type of ship pirate was using like frigates is 0.2 fo the bounty or something ALSO people cant claim same bounty for 30-60 days to avoid alts killing mains for free isk..Constructive responses only please.Idea


The purpose of the bounty system is as an isk sink. What you are proposing would make it a faucet. A faulty one with really bad plumbing.

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Edmond Lewis
Of Tears and ISK
#57 - 2014-08-15 02:04:35 UTC
Id rather a jump delay in high sec for people with KOS sec rating

short enough the cops wont get them, but long enough they cant pod fly through Jita unharmed
Pelorios
Absolute Order XVI
Absolute Honor
#58 - 2014-08-15 06:10:50 UTC



If you read the EVElopedia (yeah it has a funny name too) you'll see that what you are proposing already exists. Payouts are a percentage of value lost.

The percentage is currently 20%. So if the "bad" guys loss (i.e. ship+modules) is 100mil then you can only get 20mil for killing him. This 20mil comes out of his bounty. If he only had 10mil bounty, u only get 10mil and his bounty is cleared. If he had 100mil bounty then you would get the full 20mil (in this case) and his bounty would drop to 80mil.

It wasn't always so.

For a long time in EvE the bounty system was a joke. You used to get 100% of the bounty regardless what the other pilot was flying. So you got an alt, blew yourself up and claimed your bounty. Of course you'd need a second account for that (good for CCP) or someone you trusted to kill you and give you the money.

What the new system does makes it rather difficult to make money out of your bounty since you need to spend money on ship+modules and even then you only get 20% of that.

It has also made "bad" guys ...farmable.

In any case, the bounty system is still broken in the sense that anyone can place a bounty on anyone. It makes bounties irrelevant in the sense that they do not accurately reflect whether someone is a pirate or not, if anyone can place a bounty on anyone else.

Official bounties in the RL are placed by authorities.

So, yes, CCP could change this yet again.

They could make it so that bounties are placed automatically by Concord relative to the value lost by the 'victims'. They have rules about what is legal or not, when you get a criminal flag for example. Bounties remain farmable at 20% relative to loss value which makes them non-exploitable.

Now if you really absolutely want the freedom to place bounty because you believe that are an authority, then they could raise the price of that perhaps. Say if you want to place a bounty on someone you have to pay 5 times the bounty that you want placed. So 10mil gets you a 2 mil bounty. The rest goes to the Concord "peace fund".

Don't ask me if the numbers add up. If its an isk-sink or isk-fountain. There are two sides to it. Whatever it is, its against something else.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#59 - 2014-08-15 06:45:12 UTC
Pelorios wrote:
Bounties remain farmable at 20% relative to loss value which makes them non-exploitable.

Hahaha good joke. We used to have a bounty of ~30bil ISK on corp/alliance before someone infiltrated the corp and removed it with an "exploit". CCP screwed with the prices of some items in the last "expansion" but did not adjust the estimate which made this possible. I was thinking that this was a rather intelligent thing that guy did and that ISK was well deserved, but it looks like CCP was thinking otherwise and simply banned the guy.

They probably just took that 30bil out of the system, but I don't know for sure. I asked via petition about what actually happened to the ISK, unanswered for over half a month now. So a big FU from CCP to the guy who put that money on our heads for some reason, that's how much worth that bounty system is, it's rather a joke.

Now it looks like they screwed with the system again and the killmail only shows 50% of the actual ship market value, at least on the ships I frequently kill. So welcome to 10% bounty.
Presidente Gallente
Best Kept Dunked
OnlyFleets.
#60 - 2014-08-15 10:12:43 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
I can say as a player with about 3 billion bounty on me that bounty is a very serious thing and I literally don't ever undock anymore due to "bounty hunters."

Oh wait.


Undocking in cheap ships with a 3bil bounty on your head is rated as trolling.