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Suicide Ganking Inquiry

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Trajanus Caesar
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-08-14 02:05:21 UTC
I read that its less common now with CONCORD reaction timers decreased but when CONCORD shows up to "enforce the law" why don't you just MWD O/H and fly away until the 15min criminal timer runs down? Are CONCORD ships faster or they just scramble you on the spot?

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Forest Archer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-08-14 02:12:13 UTC
You really can't tank thier damage and warping away from them if you are able to is an exploit.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2014-08-14 02:48:59 UTC
concord = the hammer of Thor (the actual Thor , not the marvel one)
you cannot escape
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#4 - 2014-08-14 02:59:11 UTC
I think they warp to your warp tunnel endpoint (which is known to the server when warp is initiated) if you do warp away before they show up at the grid of the crime. But I think having a criminal timer at all deactivates the warp drive of everything but your pod now. If so, it wasn't always like that.

Doesn't matter anyway because any successful evasion of concord is an exploit.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#5 - 2014-08-14 03:06:53 UTC
You are immediately warp scrambled (remotely) upon earning a Crimewatch red card in highsec.

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Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-08-14 03:17:05 UTC
I believe the warp scramble is instant, before any ships are on grid, so you can't warp away. And before your MWD is able to carry your ship away, CONCORD ships will show up, web you, drain your cap, and turn you into a fireworks display.

Evading this is an exploit.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#7 - 2014-08-14 03:37:38 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Confirming that as soon as you go "Criminal Status" your ship is effectively insta-warp scrambled and webbed. Concord ships add extra E-war as they arrive on grid until you explode (which cannot be tanked as I believe that CONCORD damage is dealt as a % to HP and not raw damage itself (gate guns deal raw, tankable damage though)).

Also confirming that any form of CONCORD evasion is considered an exploit. So you have to sit there and take it like a man!
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#8 - 2014-08-14 04:05:53 UTC
- Warp scramble
- 99% Web
- Completely capped out
- ECMed

All of that nearly instant.

You ain't doin ****.

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Trajanus Caesar
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-08-14 04:20:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Trajanus Caesar
Wow. Alrighty then. Thanks for the details.

Talk about endgame. Seems like Incursions bosses got nothing on these guys.

On a side-note. Has anyone tried... warping in an asteroid field in a gang of 50. One guy pops a miner thereby signaling CONCORD to come right on schedule to kill that one pirate. Then when they show up the other 49 pirates gang up on the CONCORDians that show up, draining their cap and ECMing them as well?

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"I came, I saw, I conquered."

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#10 - 2014-08-14 04:24:32 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
I am not sure about this... but I believe that CONCORD ships have 99% resistances and are immune to Ewar.

I could very well be wrong. Does someone want to test this?
Dreadchain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-08-14 06:39:08 UTC
Trajanus Caesar wrote:
On a side-note. Has anyone tried... warping in an asteroid field in a gang of 50. One guy pops a miner thereby signaling CONCORD to come right on schedule to kill that one pirate. Then when they show up the other 49 pirates gang up on the CONCORDians that show up, draining their cap and ECMing them as well?


CONCORD are actually invincible and they'd just respawn infinitely. Moreover, they do infinite damage as well, enough to kill a titan in a single volley.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#12 - 2014-08-14 07:28:44 UTC
I remember the days when you could tank Concord. Still had to let yourself die, though.

But it was funny seeing all the vultures in Jita come swarming in waiting for the tanker to get bored and let himself die so they could fight over the scraps.

Mr Epeen Cool
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-08-14 11:17:14 UTC
In the first couple of seconds the concord spawn does regular damage you can tank. If this does not kill you in time a "superior" shows up and removes the remaining hit points from your ship with one volley.

I'm my own NPC alt.

Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-08-14 17:57:54 UTC
Funniest thing I heard of was a dude going CONDORDOKKEN and trying to enter a wormhole, only to receive the message 'some kind of CONCORD voodoo prevents you from doing this...'

F
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-08-14 20:42:57 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Funniest thing I heard of was a dude going CONDORDOKKEN and trying to enter a wormhole, only to receive the message 'some kind of CONCORD voodoo prevents you from doing this...'

F


I found a nice bug regarding festival launchers + fireworks and station guns in high-sec.

I was bored shooting fireworks at ships passing by and decided to go full out on the station with my festival launchers, expecting my frig to be quickly killed by the station guns.


Now the fun thing happened, the station guns did fire on me, but as it's a festival launcher doing no damage (no aggressive action), they also did no damage

So the lightshow was even better.

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Trajanus Caesar
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-08-14 21:46:23 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
So you have to sit there and take it like a man!
What if its a woman? Does she still have to take it? What?

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"I came, I saw, I conquered."

Brink Albosa
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2014-08-14 21:50:55 UTC
When you land at 0 on a mining vessel, he explodes, you explode, everyone else does. It's incredibly beautiful when you zoom out with full graphics on, amidst the rocks and the glorious highsec sunshine

Twisted
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#18 - 2014-08-14 22:17:03 UTC
Trajanus Caesar wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
So you have to sit there and take it like a man!
What if its a woman? Does she still have to take it? What?

It has been my experience that women (not girls) are marginaly better at taking **** like a man, than actual men.