Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Why don't give the nestor the ability to carry at least two fitted frigates, or restrict her bay to be able to hold only SoE ships? (I'd prefer simply the first)

If you think about it, the orca can hold two hulks, refit in space, use links, have massive cargo hold, a hugh EHP potential and so on, for 600 mils, the nestor, for the amazing pricetag of 1.3 bil, can remote repair, scan and hack sites, and now refit in space. A bit underwhelming, isn't it?

Anyway if you see the nestor is too OP with a proper ship bay, you can nerf it back in the next release in september, that's the good part with the patches so close to each other.

Gotta love PL logic

Shh! Don't tell them that! Let them find out the hard way!

Correct, while freighter, jf and orca use capital components to be build, the orca has been battleship sized in rigs, EHP and powergrid since day one, and her massive amount of EHP (my top fit was 427k) are part of her features due to the large pool of structure. If you check orca's shield and armor are the ones of a BS.

I'm not saying to turn the nestor into an orca, i'm just saying to add a zero to that ship maintnance bay.

And yet it is incredibly slow. Make it a little faster please..... might as well be flying a Rokh. This thing should have the fleet Phoon's velocity at the very minimum.

Oh man this is big!

I think there was this limited edition shuttle thingy a while ago. A SoC one?

If the "shuttle bay" is kept at 5000 m3 could we at least get a sisters shuttle? One with a probe launcher and mmm.. cov ops cloak? Or just lower the volume of noobships to 5000 m3 and/or introduce a SoE noobship.

The nestor is not used because it is a pointless gimic ship, designed with zero direction and not a real concept what it should actually do behind it. Non of the changes will change that till somebody actually gives the Nestor a working concept behind it.

Make it like a utility platform like marauders, give it a 100% damage bonus to lasers, reduce the turrets to 3 and give it a useful fitting and cap(the current one is still a joke, it needs 600m in T2 BS sized RR rigs to power up medium reps, yes medium not even large) to mount RR, Puls and tank at the same time. Reduce the sig even further to 380m since it just takes even with the resist bonus more damage than most other BS by the big sig from my experience and give it around 2-2.5k more base armor hit points to make it overall less squishy and more practical without a plate. Maybe add another 100% to the RR range bonus, since this is also something that vastly limits its use currently for stuff like Incs. Another thing would be to give it finally the 10 target slots like Logis and Marauders have them, to be more attractive in the Logi role and multi task better(lock stuff to shoot and RR at the same time).

Also reduce the LP prices of the Nestor in the SOE LP shop down to 350-450k LP for the BPC, it is nowhere worth the asking price of 600k, you admitted that yourself with the introduction of the chips.



People did say the exact same thing when the Nestor was introduced, a bad ship doesn't become good by being cheap, it is just a cheaper bad ship. Btw I have a 5B nestor that I use quite a bit and everybody that claims to be creative with it just tiered to use the hull for something where it was worse than a cheaper ship.

Can't wait to make some OP setups with this.

I've been intrigued by the Nestor since I started playing Eve - the flexibility to adapt to different roles appeals to me. I've created generalist characters that dabble in many areas of the New Eden sandbox, why not a generalist ship?

One problem has been price. For less than the cost of a Nestor I can buy an Onerios for logistics, a Stratios for exploration and a Rattlesnake for combat - each much better in its specialized role than the Nestor.

The idea of adding a ship maintenance bay, presumably with fleet fitting service, got me thinking about the ship again. The ability to refit on the fly has been available since the mobile depot was introduced but built in and fleet accessible adds considerable value. The perfect spot for a ship with these capabilities is wormhole space but a lot of wormholes have a 20 million kg mass restriction and it would be nice if we could shrink Nestor to that level – call it a “Pocket” Battleship. I’d be willing to give up half the drone bay, some cargo space, a high slot and some tank to achieve this. To compensate, a lighter ship should be better able to speed tank.

I see the ship being fit for one role at a time with primary roles being:
* fleet support – logistics including a full squadron of heavy logistic drones, fleet fitting service and I would really like to see a command link.
* sniper – sentry drones and range bonus for lasers – should be a good choice for level 4 missions.
* wormhole exploration – role bonuses for scanning and hacking. Can fit a conventional cloak.

I would like the logistics skill added to the requirement to fly this ship with the logistic bonuses tied to this skill. Should also be a bonus for logistic drones.

As a smaller ship closer in size to a Battle Cruiser the price from the LP store can be reduced – perhaps 400,000 LP instead of 600,000. This would help bring the market price down and current owners could receive a refund of 200,000 SOE LP.

I don’t think this ship would be overpowered – it isn’t the best at any role. Its strength is the ability to switch roles which will be very valuable in wormhole space and attractive to people (like me) who own and love their Leatherman tool.

I would definitely buy one.