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Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#41 - 2014-08-12 22:21:03 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
As a PvPer, when someone blows up my ship, I think "Time to get a new one."

As a PvEer, when someone blows up your ship, you think "How do I get revenge/hurt this person?"

Carebears: Literally psychopaths.


We keep saying that carebears are the real a**holes in this game.
Go to minerbumping.com and look at the hatemail they get. Hatemail. With real threats. For killing someone's spaceship in a video game about killing people's spaceships.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2014-08-12 22:28:08 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Wait. So you're saying all I have to do is:
1. Get eve to overvalue my ship.
2. Insure it for maximum.
3. Trick a mission runner into blowing me up
4. Wait for the money to roll in?

140% return on investment! I support the OP's idea 100%. Please move it to the correct forum so that it may be added to the game!

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Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#43 - 2014-08-12 22:29:40 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
As a PvPer, when someone blows up my ship, I think "Time to get a new one."

As a PvEer, when someone blows up your ship, you think "How do I get revenge/hurt this person?"

Carebears: Literally psychopaths.


We keep saying that carebears are the real a**holes in this game.
Go to minerbumping.com and look at the hatemail they get. Hatemail. With real threats. For killing someone's spaceship in a video game about killing people's spaceships.


Yeah. I invited someone I was bumping to comms one time. It was... not a pleasant experience.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#44 - 2014-08-12 22:30:35 UTC
Bullock Brawn wrote:
BUT .. no restitution is required to their victims?


Dont undock what you can't afford to lose.

Eve rule nr 1.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#45 - 2014-08-12 22:33:13 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
As a PvPer, when someone blows up my ship, I think "Time to get a new one."

As a PvEer, when someone blows up your ship, you think "How do I get revenge/hurt this person?"

Carebears: Literally psychopaths.


We keep saying that carebears are the real a**holes in this game.
Go to minerbumping.com and look at the hatemail they get. Hatemail. With real threats. For killing someone's spaceship in a video game about killing people's spaceships.

Believe it or not but the Erotica 1 witch hunt was what motivated me to start a bear corpse collection,
I honestly did not feel comfortable even being on the same demographic as people with such poor a grasp on the reality of what was going on as to advocate real violence in the name of "morality"....in a ****ing video game.

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Quinn Hatfield
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2014-08-12 22:35:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinn Hatfield
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
err, i have two bionic arms you cant even see, thats a billion (ish i havent checked) isk in vanity thats not even on showCool

You're not wearing your arms on your feet, I hope…?

Now I know you know about the thing with the guy in the place but that's no reason to be letting everyone know now is it!
Too late, the cat is out of the bag.

Unless, of course, it's Schrödinger's cat. In which case it's neither in or out of the bag until you look.

I don't burn bridges, I merely steal a bolt a day.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#47 - 2014-08-12 22:47:08 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
As a PvPer, when someone blows up my ship, I think "Time to get a new one."

As a PvEer, when someone blows up your ship, you think "How do I get revenge/hurt this person?"

Carebears: Literally psychopaths.


We keep saying that carebears are the real a**holes in this game.
Go to minerbumping.com and look at the hatemail they get. Hatemail. With real threats. For killing someone's spaceship in a video game about killing people's spaceships.

Believe it or not but the Erotica 1 witch hunt was what motivated me to start a bear corpse collection,
I honestly did not feel comfortable even being on the same demographic as people with such poor a grasp on the reality of what was going on as to advocate real violence in the name of "morality"....in a ****ing video game.

*cough*
Lady Areola Fappington
#48 - 2014-08-12 22:48:44 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
As a PvPer, when someone blows up my ship, I think "Time to get a new one."

As a PvEer, when someone blows up your ship, you think "How do I get revenge/hurt this person?"

Carebears: Literally psychopaths.


We keep saying that carebears are the real a**holes in this game.
Go to minerbumping.com and look at the hatemail they get. Hatemail. With real threats. For killing someone's spaceship in a video game about killing people's spaceships.



It's entirely too true. The more piratey and "bad guy" a group/corp I join, the nicer overall the people involved seem to be. Back when I did a little more organized lowsec/wardec PvP, I had our most hated "enemy" corp CEO throw me a few plex when I was going through some financial trouble, just so I could stay in-game and pewpew against them.

I've joined "Fun casual highsec PVE" corps who'd literally have "mining CTAs" were nothing short of death would get you excused. In that situation, missed a mining CTA due to being in the ER for a migraine. Got back home, and got "No excuses, 50mil fine or GTFO".

Yet somehow, when you talk to non-EVE players, it's always the pirate/ganker types who get held up as examples of "take the game too serious sociopathic crazies".

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#49 - 2014-08-12 22:57:39 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
As a PvPer, when someone blows up my ship, I think "Time to get a new one."

As a PvEer, when someone blows up your ship, you think "How do I get revenge/hurt this person?"

Carebears: Literally psychopaths.


We keep saying that carebears are the real a**holes in this game.
Go to minerbumping.com and look at the hatemail they get. Hatemail. With real threats. For killing someone's spaceship in a video game about killing people's spaceships.

Believe it or not but the Erotica 1 witch hunt was what motivated me to start a bear corpse collection,
I honestly did not feel comfortable even being on the same demographic as people with such poor a grasp on the reality of what was going on as to advocate real violence in the name of "morality"....in a ****ing video game.

*cough*

...words escape me.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#50 - 2014-08-12 23:10:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Tippia wrote:

*cough*

...words escape me.
Obviously from the AU*, IZ, LS, DE, and SR school of Eve. He should seek professional help for his anger issues before he actually hurts somebody.

*Without the constant references to WoW, but still....

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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ISD Alliance
#51 - 2014-08-12 23:43:45 UTC
Moved to Features & Ideas.

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Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#52 - 2014-08-12 23:49:43 UTC
You mention a fix, but I don't see a problem...

Casual Incursion runner & Faction Warfare grunt, ex-Wormholer, ex-Nullbear.
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#53 - 2014-08-12 23:51:46 UTC
Disappointed, when the thread got going I thought it was going to be about being able to take out kill contracts on space lawyers.Sad
Pity.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#54 - 2014-08-13 03:56:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Tippia wrote:

*cough*

...words escape me.
Obviously from the AU*, IZ, LS, DE, and SR school of Eve. He should seek professional help for his anger issues before he actually hurts somebody.

*Without the constant references to WoW, but still....

well i did spy de* in there so theres that.
* not worth capitalising that dirtbirds initials
Bullock Brawn wrote:
The people have spoken with an overwhelming love of piracy ..... Arrrgg .... thanks for the comments. Twisted

your an abdjectie enough bloke to recognise this , why the problem with the nature of the game?
(not looking for a fight here just qurious)

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Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#55 - 2014-08-13 06:41:47 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
ArchAge has a Jury system that is ABSOLUTELY FRAKIN HILARIOUS to watch. YES its biased, YES they always give the death penalty or equivalent (even for "littering"), but with everyone able to see Trial:Chat, its the most entertaining thing on the planet when your bored doing something semi-passive.


I hate that.

Especially if the guy from the jury asks "Does anyone know how this jury system works? I just shout guilty everytime..." after the verdict has been passed.

It's utter bullcrap.

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#56 - 2014-08-13 09:36:04 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
As a PvPer, when someone blows up my ship, I think "Time to get a new one."

As a PvEer, when someone blows up your ship, you think "How do I get revenge/hurt this person?"

Carebears: Literally psychopaths.


We keep saying that carebears are the real a**holes in this game.
Go to minerbumping.com and look at the hatemail they get. Hatemail. With real threats. For killing someone's spaceship in a video game about killing people's spaceships.


Just a thought, for you time to get a new ship involves a catalyst or Tier 3 BC, nice and cheap, more than likely less than the profit from the last Gank, but pretty minor expense either way.

The person you just killed, may take a week, a month, or a year, to replace the loss, particularly if foolish enough to be sailing around with all purple or an over expensive cargo.

You really should not be surprised that his reaction is stronger than yours, it is what you seek. Either big reward, or big reaction.

Ganking is a part of EVE, and probably always will be. There is nothing wrong with the choice of that as a career.

But especially if after the gank one goads and rubs the victims nose in it, and crows about their helplessness.

Do not expect to be popular.

And do not be surprised with the hate you engender.
And you really cannot criticise them for it.
Everyone has a breaking point, if you push them beyond it, you cannot expect rational behaviour.

They would hate you in real life too if that all happened there.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#57 - 2014-08-13 09:50:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Tippia wrote:

*cough*

...words escape me.

After re-reading the thread that Tippia linked, and unblocking some posters. I have to give SR major props for maintaining a polite debate, logical arguments and civil attitude despite DE's flagrant trolling and disregard for discourse and opinions that failed to live up to his own rather limited outlook and dubious moral judgements.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2014-08-13 16:27:03 UTC
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
As a PvPer, when someone blows up my ship, I think "Time to get a new one."

As a PvEer, when someone blows up your ship, you think "How do I get revenge/hurt this person?"

Carebears: Literally psychopaths.


We keep saying that carebears are the real a**holes in this game.
Go to minerbumping.com and look at the hatemail they get. Hatemail. With real threats. For killing someone's spaceship in a video game about killing people's spaceships.


Just a thought, for you time to get a new ship involves a catalyst or Tier 3 BC, nice and cheap, more than likely less than the profit from the last Gank, but pretty minor expense either way.

The person you just killed, may take a week, a month, or a year, to replace the loss, particularly if foolish enough to be sailing around with all purple or an over expensive cargo.

You really should not be surprised that his reaction is stronger than yours, it is what you seek. Either big reward, or big reaction.

Ganking is a part of EVE, and probably always will be. There is nothing wrong with the choice of that as a career.

But especially if after the gank one goads and rubs the victims nose in it, and crows about their helplessness.

Do not expect to be popular.

And do not be surprised with the hate you engender.
And you really cannot criticise them for it.
Everyone has a breaking point, if you push them beyond it, you cannot expect rational behaviour.

They would hate you in real life too if that all happened there.

And yet when I lost my first t3 to stupidly flying in high sec under wardec and dying before I ever got to use it in combat, I put gf in local and a +1 in the merc group's forum thread. That took me a month to replace too.

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Bullock Brawn
Doomheim
#59 - 2014-08-13 16:46:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Bullock Brawn
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Bullock Brawn wrote:
The people have spoken with an overwhelming love of piracy ..... Arrrgg .... thanks for the comments. Twisted

your an abdjectie enough bloke to recognise this , why the problem with the nature of the game?
(not looking for a fight here just qurious)


I don't care either way, I just seem to look for loop holes and see if there is a better way.

I've lost 5B in a single freighter gank before with other toons, which was the most memorable moment I've had in this game. 40 Kill rights.... My wife noticed I was quiet for about an hour after that one. It was actually fun though seeing all the pretty lights...

It's just that games tend to get boring and making things a bit more interesting seems to have a place. I should just join the pirates and see what that game is like, but then my kids would be right.... and I can't have that!
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#60 - 2014-08-13 17:17:33 UTC
Bullock Brawn wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Bullock Brawn wrote:
The people have spoken with an overwhelming love of piracy ..... Arrrgg .... thanks for the comments. Twisted

your an abdjectie enough bloke to recognise this , why the problem with the nature of the game?
(not looking for a fight here just qurious)


I don't care either way, I just seem to look for loop holes and see if there is a better way.

I've lost 5B in a single freighter gank before with other toons, which was the most memorable moment I've had in this game. 40 Kill rights.... My wife noticed I was quiet for about an hour after that one. It was actually fun though seeing all the pretty lights...

It's just that games tend to get boring and making things a bit more interesting seems to have a place. I should just join the pirates and see what that game is like, but then my kids would be right.... and I can't have that!

try this no ned to commit to any lifestyle Blink

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