EVE New Citizens Q&A

I hope that is the proper area to post this, maybe the Alliance Recruiting area would be better but I don't want to get spammed. Anyway, If not, please direct me so that I can re-post. (Warning wall of text incoming)

So.. I am a pretty old pilot in EVE, however, iv'e really been a ninja logger (log in just to change skills) or if you want to call me a carebear I will fess to that as well. I used to travel A LOT with my job and I've never had to the time to put into the game. If you look at my employment history I've been in some mid to large Corps and alliances but because of my schedule, I've never contributed much and joined because I had RL friends in them (they also always financed my character because they were old rich pilots ). In addition, my experience with Corps/large alliances has been pretty bad.

With that said, here is "The Meat of It". This is pretty embarrassing but I really don't know WTF to do in EVE outside of PVE and I've only done a couple plexes in my career. If you look at my Kill boards there is very little Pew Pew (pitiful) other than couple large scale engagements in which I aligned, got primaried, my hands got sweaty and well.. *pop*

I've read endless posts on advanced piloting, combat, PVP, PVE etc and I know I am a very well built toon, not perfect by any means but I've always specialized on the ships I enjoy flying, followed the boards and the suggestions of all the pilots that seem to have a handle on the game. Here I am if you care to look. http://eveboard.com/pilot/Xantheous . Guys, I am not looking for compliments or criticism unless it is constructive and I don't want to hear "sell him to me because you can't use him" or something stupid like that. I just want to really play the game.

My main goals are PVP ( I also want to learn how to solo PVP from one of the top or very capable pilots that is willing to take me under his wing. Pun not intended but it does fit ), Gang roams, faction warfare and a solid, established corp/alliance.

So.. what you guys suggest? Join EvE Uni? Just dive in, lose a few ships and have fun? Find a corp with people with the patience to deal with someone that realistically should be a good pilot and they might even consider training/baby sitting a "Old NewB"? This really probably be posted in Alliance but I was hoping to get a little input prior if you all don't mind.

Thanks for reading.

Best,

Xan

So just do that? No corp? It's fine with me I've already self-destructed/lost plenty of ships until I didn't feel the pain anymore.

Thanks for the reply. I'll see what others have to say as well.

Now that's good info thank you very much for your reply. I honestly never even thought about the spy thing, that kinda sucks. Also, I don't care about losing ships, I'm a nice guy but not thin skinned. All part of the game. Ty again.

OP... look at OP in this thread.

As I said in there... PvP is a "mentality." You do it, or you do not.

Granted... it is advisable to take precautions first... especially if you an older player trying to break in to it.

- have a "naked clone." Jump clones are awesome for this.
Yes, yes... you will not be be gaining "max SP" anymore... but realize that you want to play to FUN. The skills will still be there... they will still be getting trained, implants or no. Hell... you won't even notice the slower training times as you are running away, screaming, from a gaggle of interceptors in low-sec.

- have some "cushion" money set aside for extra clones. You are an older pilot. Your clone is more expensive now. And you most likely do not have the reflexes to warp your pod out after your ship explodes.
With time you will get better at warping out quicker. Having a separate tab on your overview with only celestials in a system, randomly selecting one, and spamming warp is one way to ensure your pod escapes.

- talk with the people who kill you. Ask questions and learn from them. Be a "cool guy."
NOTE: PvPers are not the "sociopaths" that many in EVE like to say we are. I mean... we ARE d|cks and we REALLY want to kill you... but most will generally help you after the fact (because we want you to come back so we can shoot you again).

Oh, any advice on small ships these days? I can fly most tech II frigs, (if not all with a little training) at a level V mastery. Last time I flew into PVP a Vagabond was beast but now it's bust. I will research but since I have you here I might as well ask.

Confirming all advice in this thread is good.

I will only add, as you have been bearing for a while so you should have plenty of isk stacked up. To relieve the logistics headache of moving a bunch of ships and mods to unfamiliar space, you may want to consider using Black Frog to move your things for you.

cconfirming, we do this aswell.

PVP is about knowledge and understanding, not skill points, ship size or ship cost. Someone who knows wtf he's doing and makes an alt can go pvp within a few days (within reason) and win from a 5 year old player if that player doesn't have a clue and/or wasn't prepared for that specific scenario.

As such the best way to learn is to simply do it, however there's a difference between going in headfirst and going in with a plan. If you don't have a plan and didn't give it any thought you won't learn anything other than "ok, that hurt". So to learn to pvp you need to learn how not to die, which all comes down to understanding strategies, game mechanics and ship stats. And, to me, the easiest way to learn that is RvB, red vs blue.

That's a low stress environment where newer players can learn to pvp without taken advantage of (too much). What I would do in your case is make an alt on your account, give it 1-2 weeks of focused frigate combat training, then apply for RvB and simply soak up the experience while putting in effort to learn stuff using guides, youtubes, talking to others and lots of practise.

this is not a recruitment thing .. i do not work for the corp in any capacity and i am a relatively new mbr or it .. but you could try joining RvB. I am an old toon, and had done alot of pvp .. sorta .. alot of scouting and fleet stuff and gate camps .. but i wanted to learn alot more about the basics .. about soloing, or small gang, low cost ships v low cost ships to learn and hopefuly master the fittings, tactics, strategies that the player needs. If there was another corp like RvB i would suggest them so as to not appear biased...

E-Uni probably wouldnt let you in .. as there focus is new players. They were nice enough to let me in once after i had been away for years and claimed stupidity but ... i think i got lucky.

Brave newbies could be fun to .. but i get the impression that RvB might be more "structured" - but thats a stretch and 1/2

soloing 100 t1 frigs in low sec would get results .. but being in a corp might be better..

could join rvb.

plenty of fights to be had solo, small gang or fleet.