EVE General Discussion

This should be interesting.

I think UAE is in charge.

Yep, UAE is definitely in charge.

Goonswarm is Goonswarm (or is it Goonwaffle?)

They are no stronger than anyone else in the game... they just have more bodies than most at their disposal and lots of money to put said bodies in ships.


You are going to have to specify here. There are as many alliances as there are players here (400,000+) and they all compete against one another... even ones that are supposedly allied with each other.


A little from column A... a little from column B.

Also... wars in EVE are fought more with words, meta, diplomacy, and subterfuge rather than soldiers filling the battlefields at dawn and slaughtering each other until dusk.


By force? Nope. It would require too much time, money, and willpower. This is a game after all.

But that doesn't mean someone can't press a button like last [2] time[s].


Come to low-sec. If you don't fly any battleships or capitals, it's a party down here.

"who is in charge of this joint?"

Whoever rolls it, controls it.

When I ask about competing Alliances, I meant ones that are in direct conflict with the controllng Alliance, and are actively doing activities to eat away at their power structure. Does such an Alliance exist?

Oh, one other question. I've come across the term "rental alliance". If I understand the term correctly, do corporations actually pay tribute to a powerful Alliance in order to safely conduct certain activities (mining) in nul sec space? Are the people here really that downtrodden and lack self-respect that they do this?

Suspect OP is a seasoned player. Questions 3 and 4 (particularly with the wording) sound suspicious.

As you can see - a veritable fountain of "good" information.

Oh, and the one in "charge" of the joint is usually the one who rolled it.

Hello and welcome to EVE

Answers to your questions:
1) Never trust players that tell you who dominates. It's politics ... if you get an intel from a person, you must know his/hers reputation, position and interests in order to decide whether to trust that information or not. So, it's best to extract the information yourself. Here are the couple of links that would help you out with intel gathering and situation status:
- EVE Online Coalition Sov 4/14-7/14 - this is an interactive map view of the 3 months of influence changes in EVE. The alliances in this video are grouped into coalitions.
- for the alliance level DAILY sovereignty maps, bookmark this link: http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png;
- for extremely detailed maps with LIVE information, bookmark this link: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/. It even includes a list of recently built stations (by player alliances), which alliance gained members and which lost some of it's member base, and all sorts of useful stuff.

Now for MY opinion, which you either believe or not (read above ), no corporation, alliance or coalition dominates the game... yet . There are a couple of powerful factions that hold space and all of them entered a cold war period. There is no real measurement of who is more powerful unless they engage in an open war. CFC (coalition around Goonswarm) has a massive number of pilots, N3 coalition (formed around Northern Coalition. ... by the way, they are not the guys in the North... it's an old story ) has massive percentage of veterans and PL (Pandemic Legion alliance) has massive amount of experience on dealing with much larger enemies. Some of the power players are not on the map at all or currently hold minor parts of space (compared to other blocks), but I wouldn't underestimate their enthusiasm. This mainly relates to HERO coalition (TEST, Brave Newbies,...).

Other than sovereignty holding alliances in known space, there are several wormhole based entities that are very powerful, but they are wormhole oriented and not interested in known space politics. It's really a completely different environment with completely different politics, but the fact stays that they do have a fair amount of influence over the W-Space.

2) Answered in #1.

3) Also answered in #1, but I'll repeat and clarify. After the long Halloween war that lasted for several months, there was a massive battle that lasted for days and destroyed an enormous amount of very expensive ships. You can watch official CCP's report here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O56g8KC6CM and real about the battle here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodbath_of_B-R5RB... or just google "bloodbath of B-R5RB. After the end of the war and that massive battle, the summer came to the northern hemisphere where the activity in the game is traditionally lower (sun, beach,... who am I kidding.. ok, it's the Steam summer sale ), so the coalitions went into a state of Cold War. Don't worry, you'll start to see much more action in the Autumn (the last big war was named Halloween war for a reason ).

4) For the answer on whether there is a dominating alliance, read my first answer Regarding breaking one of the powerful alliances (since none of them are dominating in the true sense of that word), it can be done only from the inside and only by the trusted members of those alliances. That would be difficult if not impossible for an outsider to do. On the other hand, crushing any one of them in the game with traditional battle is possible with enough effort, a lot of time, great planning and a lot of deals and friendships made with whoever wants to make it happen. Players, corporations and alliances that form today's most powerful coalitions have been building their empires, fighting for their space and place in the EVE universe and defending it in numerous wars. That would all be for nothing if you can crush everything they have built in a matter of weeks or a couple of months. But if you dedicate to a cause and play to make it happen, yes it can be done. After all Goonswarm is the perfect example of an alliance that had nothing than a bunch of new players in small ships and managed to fight its way through much bigger, older and wealthier enemies in order to get where they are now.

At the end, if you want to participate in a chaotic galaxy, you can do that right now by heading to Providence region. Something always happens in the Providence region no matter what happens in the rest of the game . It's a political ecosystem for itself.


Oh... and make sure to bookmark the two of the most prominent news blogs about politics and EVE in general:
- http://themittani.com/ (Goonswarm's news channel... slightly biased, but generally a great source of info)
- http://evenews24.com/ (a bit more biased, especially when they are talking against Goonwarm, but overall a great source of information as well)

Corp name leads to further questioning of sincerity.

Curious comment care to elaborate?

I agree, comment was not directed at you, it was a simple observation.

That is pretty good.

Forgive me, I was thinking your comments were said in a passive aggressive context as it was similar to comments I wrote in reply to a hate mail I received today, guess I am a little paranoid.