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Stop selling your Hydrogen Isotopes at Jita

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StopBullying Hydrogen Isotopes
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-08-09 22:32:38 UTC  |  Edited by: StopBullying Hydrogen Isotopes
UPDATE: As of August 15 5:00 EVE Time, our friendly neighbourhood market manipulators have struck again. Once again it is suggested to keep your sell orders back or off the market for the time being. Buy order fillers are also taking quite a hefty hit due to this manipulation.

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This is an announcement to all those with a supply of Hydrogen Isotopes at Jita: Stop selling them for now


The sell price for Caldari Fuel Block is roughly 19,000 ISK at Jita
The sell price for Amarr Fuel Block is roughly 18,700 ISK at Jita
The sell price for Minmatar Fuel Block is roughly 17,850 ISK at Jita

This means Minmatar Fuel Blocks at Jita has a value of roughly 94% compared to Caldari fuel and Amarr fuel.


The sell price for Nitrogen Isotopes is roughly 1,120 ISK at Jita
The sell price for Helium Isotopes is roughly 1,120 ISK at Jita
The sell price for Hydrogen Isotopes is roughly 820 ISK at Jita

This means Hydrogen Isotopes at Jita has a value of roughly 73% compared to Nitrogen Isotopes and Helium Isotopes.

In order for Hydrogen Isotopes to be of the same proportional value to the others, they would have to sell for roughly 230 ISK more (820 ISK ---> 1,050 ISK) to equate.

So why are the prices so low? Market manipulation. If we look back at the Hydrogen Isotopes page, we will notice someone with two sell orders of 17,000,000 and 11,000,000 respectively. Each day I have observed this player use these sell orders to lower the price slightly. He will generally adjust his prices by about 0.50 ISK, lowering the overall price by 1-2 ISK overall by days end. Once other players start selling for less than him he rarely will match their orders, only doing so when seeking to lower the price again.

Full credit to this player; he's probably buying up mats and producing Minmatar Fuel Blocks for a crazy profit. Unfortunately for him though, someone caught on and decided to make a thread about it.

Please spread the word around to anyone you know who's invested in the Hydrogen Isotopes, as not too many people read the forums much less this section.
Kendra Coldera
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-08-09 22:52:30 UTC
I can't believe you actually made a character for this.
Wafflehead
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-08-09 23:26:16 UTC
You really think players will take any notice of this?.
Adunh Slavy
#4 - 2014-08-09 23:28:56 UTC
So are those your big sell orders?

Oh wait, what motive for that would there be, nvm.

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Abidal Trekt
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-08-09 23:30:33 UTC
I think the better question here is: Who is Mysterion?
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-08-10 01:00:10 UTC
... posting in a doomed manipulation thread... because the wife has a headache. P

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mynnna
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2014-08-10 02:22:01 UTC
Hydrogen Isotopes and Minmatar Fuel Blocks are low because they are both the least popular race of capitals and the least popular race of control tower. Sorry for the failure of your pathetic manipulation attempt.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal

NotTheSmartestCookie
Shooting Blues Everyday
Gimme Da Loot
#8 - 2014-08-10 08:33:44 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Hydrogen Isotopes and Minmatar Fuel Blocks are low because they are both the least popular race of capitals and the least popular race of control tower. Sorry for the failure of your pathetic manipulation attempt.


You can take this as the official confirmation that Goonswarm is manipulating Minmatar isotope prices in preparation for the next war (Naglfar doctrine is a GO). Turn it all into fuel blocks and they won't be able to use it as jump fuel.

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Kendra Coldera
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-08-10 10:49:27 UTC
NotTheSmartestCookie wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Hydrogen Isotopes and Minmatar Fuel Blocks are low because they are both the least popular race of capitals and the least popular race of control tower. Sorry for the failure of your pathetic manipulation attempt.


You can take this as the official confirmation that Goonswarm is manipulating Minmatar isotope prices in preparation for the next war (Naglfar doctrine is a GO). Turn it all into fuel blocks and they won't be able to use it as jump fuel.


NP! CSM will make for a push so that Capitals also require fuel blocks!

EDIT: Time to get stocked in PI while you still can!
Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-08-10 12:50:21 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Hydrogen Isotopes and Minmatar Fuel Blocks are low because they are both the least popular race of capitals and the least popular race of control tower. Sorry for the failure of your pathetic manipulation attempt.


This is really how CSM members respond to other forum users? really? way to go Ugh

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De'Veldrin
Adversity.
Snuffed Out
#11 - 2014-08-10 13:21:00 UTC
Drago Shouna wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Hydrogen Isotopes and Minmatar Fuel Blocks are low because they are both the least popular race of capitals and the least popular race of control tower. Sorry for the failure of your pathetic manipulation attempt.


This is really how CSM members respond to other forum users? really? way to go Ugh


If you think Myanna's bad, you must have missed Larkonis.

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-08-10 16:26:20 UTC
Drago Shouna wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Hydrogen Isotopes and Minmatar Fuel Blocks are low because they are both the least popular race of capitals and the least popular race of control tower. Sorry for the failure of your pathetic manipulation attempt.


This is really how CSM members respond to other forum users? really? way to go Ugh



Clearly, you're new here... this is Mynnna on a "happy" day. P

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Cooyaw
Cajun Fast Mart
#13 - 2014-08-10 16:26:35 UTC
ok good idea! i will help you with your quest to manipulate the market in jita! awesome original idea! Everybody STOP SELLING YOUR HYDROGEN ISOTOPES IN JITA OK!!!!???
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-08-10 17:57:12 UTC  |  Edited by: IIshira
Kendra Coldera wrote:
I can't believe you actually made a character for this.

He's trying to expose a larger conspiracy to control prices in Eve by the Illuminati. That's why he had to make a character.

Too bad they probably have his IP address and tracking him down now.

Edit: Oh now that I know they're going to get me too! Nice knowing everyone. Cry
Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM
#15 - 2014-08-10 18:10:16 UTC
StopBullying Hydrogen Isotopes wrote:
Unfortunately for him though, someone caught on and decided to make a thread about it.
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And I would've gotten away with it too if it weren't for you you meddling forum threads!
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#16 - 2014-08-10 23:38:38 UTC
Zero Sum Gain wrote:
StopBullying Hydrogen Isotopes wrote:
Unfortunately for him though, someone caught on and decided to make a thread about it.
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And I would've gotten away with it too if it weren't for you you meddling forum threads!



Hey, you're the guy that keeps manipulating the price of (item redacted) and (item redacted) upward in Sinq Laison.

I have noticed.

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Aliventi
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry.
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#17 - 2014-08-11 02:00:32 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Drago Shouna wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Hydrogen Isotopes and Minmatar Fuel Blocks are low because they are both the least popular race of capitals and the least popular race of control tower. Sorry for the failure of your pathetic manipulation attempt.


This is really how CSM members respond to other forum users? really? way to go Ugh


If you think Myanna's bad, you must have missed Larkonis.

The "Free Larkonis!" cries are still heard to this day....
Dunk Dinkle
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#18 - 2014-08-12 20:25:35 UTC
As a proud Nidhoggur pilot, I say naye.

The price of Hydrogen Isotopes is fine. ;)

Christopher Mabata
Mabata's Marauders
#19 - 2014-08-14 02:01:11 UTC
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Allison A'vani
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-08-14 04:15:05 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Hydrogen Isotopes and Minmatar Fuel Blocks are low because they are both the least popular race of capitals and the least popular race of control tower. Sorry for the failure of your pathetic manipulation attempt.


Quoting for truth. Minmatar carriers are complete ass as they have no racial tank nor damage bonus (they are decent at reping poses, but they are ass in an actual capital engagement). Nags have good alpha but **** dps.

Minmatar control towers do not have a silo bounus so they are never used as mining poses, and they do not have as good CPU as caldari so they are never used as reaction poses. They also do not have enough powergrid to be use as capital production poses. The only use left (and they are pretty good at it due to arty batteries being amazing) is as a deathstar. This is also why only Minmatar larges sell at all (smalls and mediums have very little market movement).
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