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Yeah sure, because that's what we've been pushing for all along.

Between this debacle and what you guys are doing in wormholes it's little wonder you've got so many detractors right now. You're about to gain another one too. ^^

Amount of time and money I pump into this game and I campaign for one single change and you guys can't even get that right.

I hope Explorer comes here and spend some time explaining this crazy decision because I don't use Twitter.

I don't use Sisi.

I'm being told in this thread by CCP karkur that we can now wear the Sanctity Dresses without pants. However they will not allow us to wear the Rocket Dresses without pants. That is my issue.

Poor Avatar needs a sandwich.

Yeap, I get that all the time lol

Lol the masses sense my anger and move in with tear buckets at the ready.

I think you mean Devs, not GMs.

And yeah, I'm pissed about it. vOv

I've been polite and diplomatic about it for months as I pushed for change in this issue, with the Rocket dress as centrepiece. And this is the only response I get:

Have to agree, not only due to the logic in your post but also because we can wear bottoms with no top, but not vice-versa? It's permissible for female avatars to quite visibly show their bra under a vest or jacket. I'm not asking for it to be the other way around, with avatars getting about in t-shirt and underpants, but to simply wear all the dresses as dresses.

The Rocket dress is spectacular. By far the best of the entire selection when worn as an actual dress.

Anyway, I'll check my sh*t and stop being so pissy. Looking forward to hearing CCP Explorer's explanation and reasoning.

Hello while I do not think you are directing you anger at the right people I do partially agree with you.
The spooky Ghost Heel all female avatars have is nothing when compared to the almost Victorian oppression of the clothing style. I for one think we should be allowed to wear any length dress or skirt or nothing at all. This however will never happen.

You are fighting a losing battle. No amount of advocacy or lobbying will lead to more progressive (see modern) attire choices. It's not karkurs fault. Karkur is the last person who wants to see inequality in terms of gender, ingame or otherwise. Karkur like many at ccp are part of a team*.


When asking anything about clothing or design choices you won't always get an explanation. When you do it's double talk.


"Engine Limitation"
"Design Choice"
"Technical Limitation"
Example

That was years ago when I asked the dev team.


~If I was In Charge~

You would have the option of 2 portraits. Personal and professional. Professional would have the current rules and personal would be for blues where you could be stark naked if you want. Sitting somewhere in CQ and snapping a selfi. The body would have more variation in terms of breast size. Forcing females to have at minimum a D cup is seriously stupid. The bits of your avatar would be hot swappable and have fully rendered direct x 11 fordyce spots with tessalation and high end bump mapping. You could tat your mons with the alliance logo of your choosing (just like in real life).







SPOILERS: I am not in charge.

It's cool everybody loses their cool even me.

I can understand what you mean about the concept of a "trivial feature" being relative. I would love nothing more than to treat EvE like a social network in space. I would invite all my girlfriend to my CQ and we would do fireballs while watching the reanimated cyborg of NDT narrate the COSMOS tv show. It would be like second life only... good. While these are my views I have an understanding that most players would rather have something entirely different but just as specific or obscure.

As far as game companies go, CCP makes everybody else look like Umbrella Corp. The gaming industry now resembles political theature more than it does an entertainment industry. That is where CCP is the glimmer of hope. The light in the dark.
The last bastion of true game development in a market full of half baked console ports and Football manager 2018.

Full disclosure: I have a gratuitous investment into the success of CCP.

Of course, I can understand how yourself or the casual observer wouldn't get irate like I did.

Why? Well because you have no interest in this stuff, don't use it, have spent no time campaigning and pushing for it's change or the implementation of fresh content, or probably even following it's development (or lack thereof). To you this stuff is "purely optical", but sir to many many others it's a lot more.

My attitude might stink a little in this thread, and I've already apologized for being rude in my earlier posts, but the logic behind my complaint is rock-solid. If that logic is ignored because they don't like the attitude of the paying customer who presents it then that says more about them than me. I don't expect you to appreciate the importance it holds to me, just like I don't appreciate the importance that 90% of the threads in this subsection have for others because they're not things I feel passionate about in my EVE. Passionate enough to unsub 5 of my 8 accounts over this (thereby along with 5/8ths of my considerable community activity) and cut my side-spending per month here by hundreds if the outcome isn't to this consumer's satisfaction. *shrug*

Heya Ranger

Well what a lot of folks who are dropping by this thread to take a poke at me don't seem to realise is that this is an issue that's been ongoing for quite a while. A few people have been pushing it and campaigning for it including me and nobody more-so than Sol, the OP here. For long months I've personally been nothing but polite and diplomatic. This isn't the first day of this issue, rather the climax. As Xenuria mentioned it's importance is relative and for me it's huge.

Over a silly dress?

No, not at all. It's a little deeper than that - for an analogy look in the WH forum this past week. Unprecedented rage, unsubbing and dozens of rebellious rage/spam threads. It's all over some proposed changes. Proposed! Not even implemented! Why such a reaction over something non-tangible? Because the very proposals themselves show a huge disconnect between the Devs and the WH community. It shows a continued direction of development that the players are sick to death of.

Similarly my upset here isn't simply because I can't wear an item how I want - it's because the reasoning is unsound and on the surface appears hypocritical. Just the latest straw thrown on the back of what has been a complete snub of avatar-related development for years here, an area important to many. Even the mere fact the changes to dresses we HAVE now seen took a concerted campaign to bring to fruition is frankly comical.

We're seeing more of avatars now days though, got your NES and some more items in the pipe, microtransactions alive and well because CCP needs that money badly. With that in mind I'm not making a "threat" to unsub some of my accounts, I'm making a promise because I don't wish to invest my time and money in encouraging a development thought-process I don't agree with.

And each of us as users/consumers here are well within our rights to do so, in fact it's one of the most powerful statements we can make (beyond shooting a pixellated monument apparently). My faith in the development process is dropping and naturally my motivation to play and spend money will drop along with it. I'm sorry if me highlighting those facts somehow devalue my opinion or make me seem like I'm throwing a "hissy fit".

Foremost Im looking forward to the reasoning behind it being explained by Explorer so I can make my decisions on fact rather than assumption - which is all us avatar supporters have had to work with for years.

Cheers.