Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I think posting this on the EvE Forums was a mistake bud. The minority of the player-base that visits this portal have long since run off any opposing viewpoints. Most threads that get positive attention here contain prohibitive amounts of self-affirming pablum. In short, most of the people viewing this thread already know what's best for EvE and have no intention of entertaining other viewpoints.

Pertaining to your suggestion, the larger sec status penalty doesn't effectively inhibit the practice of suicide ganking. As has been stated previously, -10 is a goal for many players, also making it so easily achieved cheapens it for the portion of the player-base that sees it as a badge of piracy. Aside from that, navigating HiSec with -10 is easy.

I agree with your intention, in that Suicide Ganking doesn't track with the rest of EvE as it pertains to Risk vs Reward. The risks taken when ganking are marginal and easily mitigated.

Let's be clear, the question is NOT "How do we make Hi Security space safer?"

The question is "How do we balance the risk for an activity that can easily pay out better than almost any other solo or small group activity in EvE?" This is not easily answered, because the content in an activity like Suicide Ganking is somewhat random and takes preparation and marginal skill to really pay out on a regular basis.

Side note: It would be fun if haulers could place "phantom" items in their cargo that really weren't worth anything, but looked exactly like X module/ship/item when ship scanned. In the spirit of that idea, maybe the answer is in giving the haulers some form of counter-play to make it more interesting from a PvP standpoint.

This is balanced by the fact that the "victim" chooses what to fly and what they are carrying. They make that choice not the gankers if everyone chose wisely there would be no gankers (operating for profit).

I would prefer that you had some ganks on your KB before you stated this.

Like everything in eve, once you understand the mechanics and you have practiced to the point that you know what you can and can't do it is easily perceived as "easy" or "no risk"



It is already like this, give it a try and you will see.

I didn't read the OP or the rest of the thread but

Doomheim

Sweet, it was for the best

Am I a vagina if I live in highsec but don't play the victim card?

link away!

CCP should rethink the entire suicide-gank punishment system, and use a new one based on the delta between victim's ship+cargo values minus criminal ship and module costs. If the criminals don't have enough isk in their banks, then take it from other characters on the account (multiple accounts of the same owner if one account isn't enough). And if that still doesn't make up for the difference, then take it out of their skill points on a percentile basis (if 25% short on isk, then take 25% of criminal SP).

I want Concord to charge the "victim" the value of their ship and cargo in fines for services rendered.