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Gulo the Savage
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-08-05 21:28:55 UTC
Hey guys. This is my second day in EVE and I rather enjoy it. It looks kinda boring to watch on videos but being inside the game is a much different story.

That aside, I'm on a 21- day trial and recently completed the tutorial along with a couple of the Career Agent missions.

Right now I'm sitting on a few ships from these missions as well as about 3million ISK and if I want to keep playing this game (which I think I will) I'll have to earn my PLEX in-game as opposed to paying for it. I'm a college student and don't really have the money to dish on this game's subscription every month, and I also think it would be fun to strive for.

So how am I to make a lot of ISK in this trial period to fund this game?
Damen Apol
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#2 - 2014-08-05 21:44:05 UTC
Most people tend to find that struggling to pay for the game monthly turns the game into a job rather than a game
Paranoid Loyd
#3 - 2014-08-05 21:47:12 UTC
^This

It wont be much fun, if all of your time is spent grinding. Not saying it cant be done. Just saying it is generally not worth it.

The reality is it cost less than a dollar a day to play. Maybe save that dollar you spend on your lunch soda every day. It will be much more satisfying.

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Jonah Gravenstein
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#4 - 2014-08-05 21:47:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Damen Apol wrote:
Most people tend to find that struggling to pay for the game monthly turns the game into a job rather than a game
Pretty much this, it took me several months before I had a stable enough ingame income to purchase PLEX via the market. After nearly 5 years I still occasionally pay cash for my sub.

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Schmata Bastanold
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#5 - 2014-08-05 22:12:53 UTC
If you can't earn 15 euro during whole month I don't think Eve is your biggest problem.

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Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#6 - 2014-08-05 22:15:14 UTC
I used to PLEX my accounts. I stopped when PLEX became too expensive to justify spending the ISK and now I use my credit card instead. It's liberating and I don't know why I didn't do it sooner.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-08-05 22:54:12 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Gulo the Savage wrote:
Hey guys. This is my second day in EVE and I rather enjoy it. It looks kinda boring to watch on videos but being inside the game is a much different story.

That aside, I'm on a 21- day trial and recently completed the tutorial along with a couple of the Career Agent missions.

Right now I'm sitting on a few ships from these missions as well as about 3million ISK and if I want to keep playing this game (which I think I will) I'll have to earn my PLEX in-game as opposed to paying for it. I'm a college student and don't really have the money to dish on this game's subscription every month, and I also think it would be fun to strive for.

So how am I to make a lot of ISK in this trial period to fund this game?


Good luck

A PLEX is close to or over 800 mil ISK.

Get a freaking side job next to college (I'm a student too and can easily afford the sub for the game with a side job just in my holidays (not even talking about working in weekends too).

A side job will pay for EVE easier and WAY faster then grinding ISK every month, just so you can repeat it the next month.


EDIT:

Hell, last year I subbed 3 accounts for 12 months, just from tax return money.

Edit part deux:

Love how every single reply is basically the same...don't try it, because it is near impossible to pull off and it will turn EVE from a game into a bad paying job.

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Paranoid Loyd
#8 - 2014-08-05 23:03:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Xuixien wrote:
I used to PLEX my accounts. I stopped when PLEX became too expensive to justify spending the ISK and now I use my credit card instead. It's liberating and I don't know why I didn't do it sooner.


Agreed, I always chuckle when my cohorts talk about plexing their accounts.
I make plenty to do it but it is quite liberating to not worry about it.

Heh, I was doing some finances recently and realized, I pay more for beer while playing eve than I do to actually play eve. Blink

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Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#9 - 2014-08-05 23:05:50 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
I used to PLEX my accounts. I stopped when PLEX became too expensive to justify spending the ISK and now I use my credit card instead. It's liberating and I don't know why I didn't do it sooner.


Agreed, I always chuckle when my cohorts talk about plexing their accounts.
I make plenty to do it but it is quite liberating to not worry about it.


PLEX is a monkey on your back. I'm so glad I kicked the habit.

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Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-08-05 23:15:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Jur Tissant
I wouldn't expect to be PLEXing your account monthly until you're a few months in. I personally manage my PLEX (and some spare change) each month through planetary interaction (PI). I update my colonies once a day on each of my three characters and do some hauling every week or so, and that nets me around 1.4 bil per month. So for me, I have enough ISK income that I don't bore myself to death grinding for my PLEX.

Active income methods can be more or less profitable. You might look into faction warfare, gearing up for incursions (this will take some months' training), null sec exploration, and so on.

However, some people prefer to pay the $15/mo because it opens more doors for them. How useful your disposable income is depends on your skill level - I haven't been around long enough to be flying around carriers and jump freighters, much less have a use for them, so I'm fine putting half of my income per month into my PLEX.

Schmata Bastanold wrote:
If you can't earn 15 euro during whole month I don't think Eve is your biggest problem.


but there's nothing wrong with wanting to save money. $15 in my wallet in real life is sometimes worth much more to me than hundreds of millions of ISK.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-08-05 23:41:03 UTC
Sheesh, people are so negative!

Unfortunately they're mostly right. You can make the isk require to plex an account, but in the first few months it will be exceedingly difficult especially with prices rising like they are. Trading is probably the only pheasible way of plexing an account soon after starting, but without seed money it will be very difficult to get started. My recommendation is to purchase a few months of game time to give yourself a buffer before you have to start plexing.

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#12 - 2014-08-06 00:38:43 UTC
Trading is possible, but like the others I strongly recommend paying cash out of your entertainment budget. It is possible to acquire a PLEX within 14 days of starting but it is not even close to fun.

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Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-08-06 00:43:27 UTC
Jur Tissant wrote:
I wouldn't expect to be PLEXing your account monthly until you're a few months in. I personally manage my PLEX (and some spare change) each month through planetary interaction (PI). I update my colonies once a day on each of my three characters and do some hauling every week or so, and that nets me around 1.4 bil per month. So for me, I have enough ISK income that I don't bore myself to death grinding for my PLEX.

Active income methods can be more or less profitable. You might look into faction warfare, gearing up for incursions (this will take some months' training), null sec exploration, and so on.

However, some people prefer to pay the $15/mo because it opens more doors for them. How useful your disposable income is depends on your skill level - I haven't been around long enough to be flying around carriers and jump freighters, much less have a use for them, so I'm fine putting half of my income per month into my PLEX.

Schmata Bastanold wrote:
If you can't earn 15 euro during whole month I don't think Eve is your biggest problem.


but there's nothing wrong with wanting to save money. $15 in my wallet in real life is sometimes worth much more to me than hundreds of millions of ISK.


Unless you value your time you can try and play EVE like a 23/7 ISK grind to keep on playing. Take note time is money and if you just play the game to grind for ISK so you can continue to play the game to grind in more ISK your time must not be really worth alot. I honestly just fork over the sub money and play EVE when I have the time and NEVER worry about my ISK/hr or my sub running out because I ran out of ISK doing whatever I like to do in EVE.

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Gulo the Savage
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-08-06 00:44:14 UTC
I understand that it's generally not worth it to spend ISK on a PLEX, but I'd really rather have that $15 a month for beer or something.

I get that, but are there any methods that work quite well for this? I just watched a YouTube video about EveMogul or something where he makes 700k ISK after half a day of trading from a fresh account.

I mean I have plenty of free time right now until school, and I'm not far enough into the game yet to know if I'll be sticking with it for the long haul - in the event that I don't I'd rather not have spent $15 for a couple months.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-08-06 00:49:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Yang Aurilen
Gulo the Savage wrote:
I understand that it's generally not worth it to spend ISK on a PLEX, but I'd really rather have that $15 a month for beer or something.

I get that, but are there any methods that work quite well for this? I just watched a YouTube video about EveMogul or something where he makes 700k ISK after half a day of trading from a fresh account.

I mean I have plenty of free time right now until school, and I'm not far enough into the game yet to know if I'll be sticking with it for the long haul - in the event that I don't I'd rather not have spent $15 for a couple months.


Fastest way to get ISK is to scam them from other players. But tell me this how long will 15 dollars worth of beer will last you compared to 15 dollars so you can play and experiment what you want do in EVE for a month without worrying about your ISK/hr. I used to have the same mindset as you but found the ISK grind mind numbingly boring so I forked over a 3 month sub and 2 plexes to sell and jumped into FW to die alot and have fun.

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Paranoid Loyd
#16 - 2014-08-06 00:58:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Gulo the Savage wrote:
I'm not far enough into the game yet to know if I'll be sticking with it for the long haul.


This is the exact reason I recommend you dont try to make enough to PLEX, you should be spending time learning the in and outs of the game, instead your time will be spent grinding instead of playing and you wont have much isk to actually buy the stuff you want.

If you think you can trade your way to success, by all means go ahead but it is a big market that takes most more than a month or two to get a grasp of what works and what doesn't.

The scamming route is also viable, but again, it will take time to become successful.

Either way you choose to go, seek out mentors that are successful that will give you pointers, as that is the quickest way to learn. There is plenty of info out there but making heads or tails of what info is still good and what is obsolete is why you need to seek mentors.

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Netan MalDoran
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The Silent Syndicate
#17 - 2014-08-06 02:42:27 UTC
Lets put it this way, you can either grind 100 hours mining, or 33 hours LvL 4 mission grinding giving you 20 cents/hour or 60 cents/hour respectively for boring ingame grinding to get a plex, or you can use those same hours making 9/hour dollar minimal wage at McDonalds and have a plex in 4 hours, choice is yours.

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Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-08-06 04:11:32 UTC
Netan MalDoran wrote:
Lets put it this way, you can either grind 100 hours mining, or 33 hours LvL 4 mission grinding giving you 20 cents/hour or 60 cents/hour respectively for boring ingame grinding to get a plex, or you can use those same hours making 9/hour dollar minimal wage at McDonalds and have a plex in 4 hours, choice is yours.


20 cents/hour or 60 cents/hour, you are converting ISK to USD. Just because a PLEX can get you ~800mil for $20 doesn't mean it's "worth" that much.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-08-06 07:21:29 UTC
Jur Tissant wrote:
Netan MalDoran wrote:
Lets put it this way, you can either grind 100 hours mining, or 33 hours LvL 4 mission grinding giving you 20 cents/hour or 60 cents/hour respectively for boring ingame grinding to get a plex, or you can use those same hours making 9/hour dollar minimal wage at McDonalds and have a plex in 4 hours, choice is yours.


20 cents/hour or 60 cents/hour, you are converting ISK to USD. Just because a PLEX can get you ~800mil for $20 doesn't mean it's "worth" that much.


It is worth that much as that is how convertion works.
If I go to the bank with that spare dollar I have left over from my us trip, they will give me 'x' Euro for it based on the exchange rates.

Same with Dollar/Euro/Pounds to ISK. The only difference is that it is a one way exchange possibility. But it does make it possible to 'calculate' your RL income in EVE.




p.s. OP there is NO easy way to PLEX your account. If there was, everybody was doing it and a PLEX would cost 800 bil instead of 800 mil.
Simple supply & demand.

Work 2 more hours or skip a couple of beers a month.

15 Euro (less if you take long term subs) a month to play this game for 30 days or...

15 euro for about 7 beer where I live in my local bar, which means about 3 hours tops. Which gets me more bang for my buck...

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#20 - 2014-08-06 07:36:51 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
I used to PLEX my accounts. I stopped when PLEX became too expensive to justify spending the ISK and now I use my credit card instead. It's liberating and I don't know why I didn't do it sooner.


I'm the opposite.

I spent my first four years paying a sub on up to five accts. Then one day I thought, "I seem to have a couple of hundred billion ISKies I'm not using for anything ". I've been PLEXing ever since.

Although I agree with the above people in that if you are new and have only one acct, don't turn the game into a second job. Even at minimum wage it'll only cost you about an hours pay for a month of game time.

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