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Goonswarm and The Goonwaffe

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Robert Sawyer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-08-04 22:16:19 UTC
Ever since I've heard of EVE, the most terrifying tale is that of Goonswarm.
After looking up their history, they had two Great Wars with an alliance called Band of Brothers, which was defeated. After that, CFC was born.
They seem to have their roots in the Something Awful forums. I've paid a visit there and no post seems to make sense. All their content seems to be primarily composed of stupidity, racism and homophobia. Their fleet is also made out of reckless players that have no moral qualities whatsoever. And now, I'm telling you, CFC: do you really want your alliance to be that low? An alliance represented by trolls and the lowest scum the Internet has seen? You are better than that!
Now, I want to initiate a lil' poll. Who disagrees with Goonswarm and who doesn't?

*Rant time over, question time

1) How does Goonswarm maintain influential control over the entire game?
2) What drives them to destroy the game?
3) Why are they unstoppable?
4) Why can't all the powerful alliances team up and end Goonswarm once and for all?
5) How does one kill a Goon?

"And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph."

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#2 - 2014-08-04 22:17:55 UTC
This'll fun until the lock.

Mr Epeen Cool
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#3 - 2014-08-04 22:18:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Popcorn anyone?

(I can't do better than the popcorn gif in Sibyyl's signature, so I won't even try).
Brock Nelson
#4 - 2014-08-04 22:18:47 UTC
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Thread closed.

Signature removed, CCP Phantom

Robert Sawyer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-08-04 22:20:24 UTC
It was fun whilst it lasted!

"And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph."

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#6 - 2014-08-04 22:22:51 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:

Thread closed.
Lies!

Mr Epeen Cool
Paranoid Loyd
#7 - 2014-08-04 22:24:08 UTC
Not enough Grr, please reformat

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2014-08-04 22:24:45 UTC
1. They don't.
2. Nothing.
3. They're not.
4. Why would they?
5. Shoot them.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-08-04 22:27:37 UTC
Robert Sawyer wrote:
2) What drives them to destroy the game?


Some out of context quoting fun:

CCP Falcon wrote:
Some men just want to watch the world burn.


Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.

Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#10 - 2014-08-04 22:28:59 UTC
Pretty much agree with Tippia there - (a requirement of posting on GD I'm afraid.)

Goons - have a good grip on the game mechanics and exploit them - there ... said it.

They can buy you several times over and not feel it - and the only way I think of getting rid of them is to shut down Eve.

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking

Dread Elvis
Nanna Sandwich Trading
#11 - 2014-08-04 22:36:33 UTC
So I actually will try and answer without controversy.

So background, my corp at the time (yes this is an alt) was in Goonswarm just before the moved to null. I loved it but my corpmates found the "Something Awefull-ness style of community hard to adapt to. So we left mostly because ot that culture. Sad choice in my opinion.

Some quick observations, the goons attracted some of the smartest eve players around. So they often were the best at maximizing the pay offs for game mechanics. Over time they seemed to have the most effective tactics. They kept it fun for their members. They embrace the "evil" part of the game which makes them perfect for Eve. They have had some amazing success at the "meta" of Eve.

They net of it all is they are huge, own enough wealth producing wealth to have amassed a huge force. They are pretty much here to stay unless somehow they melt down on their own.

So if you want to play Eve, welcome to the goon's sandbox. They used smarts and numbers to build and kick down any sort of sand castle they want. Good thing? Bad thing? You have to decide for yourself but it can make things "ineresting" around the 'verse'.

To the specific questions:

1) How does Goonswarm maintain influential control over the entire game?
Numbers, ownership of huge wealth building pieces of space, smart people in the right places of their org.

2) What drives them to destroy the game?
They started out claiming they wanted to ruin the game, they are well past the and not are more of "they are the game".

3) Why are they unstoppable?
See "numbers, wealth, smart people where it matters and they keep it fun for the members".

4) Why can't all the powerful alliances team up and end Goonswarm once and for all?
If you could herd all those cats and keep them focused you could. Everyone keeps waiting for that leader that could do that.

5) How does one kill a Goon?
Target their ship with whatever your favorite weapons are and keep shooting. If you are better at that than them they pop just like the rest of us. In fact my primary corp had a few of their corpses on display. Put your mind to it most anyone can be made a corpscicle.

Good luck!!

TCB Baby!
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2014-08-04 22:37:44 UTC
grrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR GOOOOOOOOOOOONS!
RoAnnon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-08-04 22:41:36 UTC
Thread needs more Pssssssssshhhhhhhhh

So, you're a bounty hunter. No, that ain't it at all. Then what are you? I'm a bounty hunter.

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Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#14 - 2014-08-04 22:43:01 UTC
And on the 8th Day, the Lord came down and created the Search function. And on that day, the people were like "naw man, we don't want to look up the other hundreds of threads that contain the exact same questions and provide the exact same answers or even bother to look at google to find things on a publicly view-able wiki run by some despicable, fedora-wearing leader of neckbeards with an obsession with the tilde key. Nah dude, we cool, we chill, #420blazeit."

And the Lord then held his head and wondered why he even bothered with this in the first place and scrapped the 8th day. And the people rejoiced.

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword

Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2014-08-04 22:45:58 UTC
Robert Sawyer wrote:
1) How does Goonswarm maintain influential control over the entire game?
2) What drives them to destroy the game?
3) Why are they unstoppable?
4) Why can't all the powerful alliances team up and end Goonswarm once and for all?
5) How does one kill a Goon?

- they don't
- they're not trying to
- they're not
- who cares?
- you'd need to rally all of the miners, missioners and incursion runners in highsec
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-08-04 22:48:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Gallowmere Rorschach
Let me see if I can help you out with these, given my short time as a member of the most prestigious and upstanding of Eve Coalitions.

1) How does Goonswarm maintain influential control over the entire game?
We (they) don't. Most of what you see to the contrary will likely be spewed from fearmongering folk, who also have a severe case of envy. Even the mighty Gevlon finally admitted that the only reason he hates Goons, is because he can't be one.

2) What drives them to destroy the game?
Nothing. Again, this is generally fearmongers bringing up "old ****". Most of us actually appear to enjoy this terrible ass game, and destroying it would go against our own interests.

3) Why are they unstoppable?
We aren't. It's just that, as Progodlegend put it, most Eve players are a bunch of whiners who just can't seem to sack up, organize, and take on the CFC (paraphrasing a bit).

4) Why can't all the powerful alliances team up and end Goonswarm once and for all?
Because Goons transcend Eve. They were born elsewhere, brought their culture here, and picked up a lot of pubbies along the way who happen to enjoy being a part of them (I am in this group). Hell, I'd probably be forced to join SA, if I ever lost access to the Goonfleet forums. Goons have been "killed" before. And they came right back and stomped a mudhole in the asses of all responsible. It would happen again.

5) How does one kill a Goon?
Turrets.
Dread Elvis
Nanna Sandwich Trading
#17 - 2014-08-04 22:49:52 UTC
I almost forgot, I have great connections with the goon leadership. The best way to know your answers is to join them. I can make that happen for half what they normally charge! $500 million to me and I'll get all your stuff out to null and a full membership!

TCB!
Kharaxus
Eve Academy Corporation
#18 - 2014-08-04 22:51:33 UTC
5) Fly to VFK and start shooting pods and cynos. When that gets boring start targeting their ratting ships. I personally accidentally killed one of their reapers, while just flying around down there in a condor - good clean fun.

Ever heard of Harry Forever? Look him up ingame, and check out his zkillboard. He has made a career out of killing Goonies.
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2014-08-04 23:04:11 UTC
Goons ruin everything.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise

45thtiger 0109
Pan-Intergalatic Business Community
#20 - 2014-08-04 23:10:57 UTC  |  Edited by: 45thtiger 0109
Mr Epeen wrote:
This'll fun until the lock.

Mr Epeen Cool


Until the Goonswarm lock lol

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