Wormholes

We already have the same few people with alts doing the boosting/scanning/massing when we rageroll, because other people would have to swap out of a combat ship. This is just going to burn out the people who can multibox even faster.

100% not for this change. Maybe focus on changing the black hole effect?

Well this is a horrible change. WH space was just starting to get more population too. Now CCP is going to kill it off. Stupid change almost as dumb as when you could not warp to a gate at 0. just please announce when this is going live CCP so i can move out of my C4 and unsub like most of the high sec indys have already. You guys **** up indy completely and then instead of all hands on deck fixing it you are ******* with wh space great use of resources. Keep this **** up and the eve is dying crowd will finally be right. I mean you guys realize with how wh and polarization work you cant just jump back and escape like a gate. hell if anything randomly spawning 80km off the people trying to kill me is going to help me escape. And on top of it all its one more change that helps large groups over small exactly what we dont want in WH space. You already gave null to the goons how bout letting small groups keep something.........

There are no words to say how bad this is. We spend hours rolling in order to get good fights. Now we are going to spend even more hours or people just get borred and not login. .

I hope Hellmar isnt telling people to ignore the rage and hate for this change like he did with incarna. Probably already has a "Im sorry I screwed you guys over" speech ready. Seriously, you guys had to fire 20% of all CCP employees last time you basically didnt give a **** about what the community said. You also lost about 10%? or so of all your income from subscriptions as well. Granted, this wont be as bad as incarna, but if you dont give a damn about us now, what about the next change that you completely ignore the public AGAIN and then you have Incarna 2.0 happen?

I would seriously stop being concieted and breaking things that work as intended, and fix something more important like 0.0, pos management, hell walking in station would be nice. Just stop changing things that dont help the gake but rather enrage the player base. WE ALL KNOW MAKING THE EVE COMMUNITY MAD = BAD.

Rant over, watching Lucy in theatre right now. I shall post more when I'm home. Also, Hellmar; Stop. Breaking. This. Game. Please. And. Thank. You.

W-space jump mechanics ain't broke.
Don't fix them.

There ARE things that are broken: free discovery scanner sig intel, free industry intel via teams, and ore belts as anomalies instead of signatures.
Fix those.


Does the WH brawling style of fighting confuse your nullsec minds so much that you need to make W-space more like K-space? Nano-kiting is the rule of thumb in K-space. Armour brawling is the rule of thumb in W-space. You don't need every place in the game to have the exact same mechanics as everywhere else. You do know that polarization exists, right? That we can't keep jumping back and forth at any given time?

Are we TOO efficient at hunting, finding your nullsec farming fleets, and ripping them to shreds? Please show us on the doll where a W-space group touched your ratting or C5 farming fleet.

Are you going to make the same kind of changes affect Cynos and K-space gates, or are only the W-space groups in your crosshairs?

Well you are one rudey pooty pitootie
Not quite sure what I did to you :)

Lo Fozzie,

don't take hate but somehow i got the feeling that i do not like any part of that extract of your post.

Just leave w-space alone, for me personally it is by far the best part of Eve, so looking at the changes you guys brought to the game lately (beside the changes to scanning, these are really good) i doubt it will get any better.

Best Regards
Gal

Some of the best times I have had was with just 4-6 pilots. One scout so that doesn´t leave much wiggleroom.

If I was with team tinfoldhat I´d say nullbears have lost too many caps/supers on wormholes because they were too scared to follow the wounded caps in. If the cap is not in jumprange anymore they can do riskfree titandrivebys or just throw everything at it until TiDi hits. Free capkills for the blob.

I find it cute how people think this will force people to move away from armor-T3s. You know that over 50% of those ships will have longrange scrams and webs and spawn in a tiny ball around the hole. If you bring f.e. kitey BS they will still appear in range and you will loose alot of them fast since they will also outdps you. Or they will really **** you over and bring a lot of damps, tank you easily and just roll you in because you don´t have a HIC on the hole.
This stuff works in k-space because a) regional gates f.e. spawn your entire fleet scattered inside a huge radius and b) there are flippin gates you can take to get out and around. Here it is loose your holecontrol and you loose your way home.

This change will also make camping retardedly easy, you see what jumps, you do the math and then have a ceptor orbit the hole at the spawnrange. Or in case of covertops just smartbomb his ass, you know he is within 2000m of the hole.

Fozzies response also feels like "we have already decided on how to change everything. We might adjust some numbers."

Wanted to chime in on this thread. Being a smaller corp, this will significantly affect our ability to close holes as we will not want to risk our Orcas and maybe not even our battleships to close a hostile hole or get a new LS static for better PvE or PvP opportunities. Will it cause us to leave WH space? Probably not, but if we have dangerous or deadly connections or a really crappy static, we will probably just stay possed up and flip to our HS mission running or mining alts instead of trying to stay and play in the wormhole space.

Also, its very concerning to me why CCP seems to keep needing to relearn the lesson of open and honest communication when it comes to the player base and CSM regarding changes to game mechanics.