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Gorath Vaan
Cause of Crisis
#1 - 2011-12-08 17:01:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Gorath Vaan
So, a couple of years ago CCP used Eve Forums to announce Dust 514, saying that Dust would be played using the Eve universe and the planets we fly by every day. I think a lot of people were excited by the prospect. Big smile

Since then Dust 514 has progressively retreated away from Eve and now it finally ends up in Playstation only format. Oops

So that first buzz of enthusiasm that we Eve players would finally get some 'real' planetary interaction was watered down to the basically profitless entity that it is in Eve today, successfully implemented, I might add only at the second attempt. Evil

So here's my feature idea...Idea

Release Dust 514 properly into the PC version of Eve. Let 'us' use the planets in 'our' universe. Cool

It will not be the same knowing that every time I come out of warp, a whole bunch of unknown telly addicts will be blasting away at each other on that (now) beautiful planet that loiters gently in space right by 'my' current stargate. Twisted

Personally, I loathe game consoles. I've been PC since time began and an Eve player since 2005. Evil

Come on guys, let us play on our planets! After all, you promised we could years ago. Question
Serial Chi
White Knights of Equestria
#2 - 2011-12-08 17:44:50 UTC
NO.

PS3 you can have some real fights. PC is purely aim bot vs aim bot. Sure there will be some hacks regardless, but its a lot easier to patch hacks for the ps3 then it is for a pc. A pc will always have A LOT more hacks then the ps3, thats a fact. There will always be a lot more people making hacks the PC over the PS3. No thanks. Don't be such a cheap ass. Buy a PS3 if you want to play. I play tons of games on it, COD, little big planet, final fantasy, etc. not to mention it saves on buying a blueray player.
Alx Warlord
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-12-08 19:12:36 UTC
Sorry, but PS3 is the only solution for a FPS... all pc FPS are ruined... and the integration between Eve and Dust is planned to be one of the most important evolution for the consoles in the lasts years....

Please read these!

New POS system New SOV system
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#4 - 2011-12-08 20:39:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuka Solo
Gorath Vaan wrote:
So, a couple of years ago CCP used Eve Forums to announce Dust 514, saying that Dust would be played using the Eve universe and the planets we fly by every day. I think a lot of people were excited by the prospect. Big smile

Since then Dust 514 has progressively retreated away from Eve and now it finally ends up in Playstation only format. Oops

So that first buzz of enthusiasm that we Eve players would finally get some 'real' planetary interaction was watered down to the basically profitless entity that it is in Eve today, successfully implemented, I might add only at the second attempt. Evil

So here's my feature idea...Idea

Release Dust 514 properly into the PC version of Eve. Let 'us' use the planets in 'our' universe. Cool

It will not be the same knowing that every time I come out of warp, a whole bunch of unknown telly addicts will be blasting away at each other on that (now) beautiful planet that loiters gently in space right by 'my' current stargate. Twisted

Personally, I loathe game consoles. I've been PC since time began and an Eve player since 2005. Evil

Come on guys, let us play on our planets! After all, you promised we could years ago. Question


1) PI is a profitless entity? I think you fail.

I have a massive suggestion to expand PI. It's called PI 2.0.

2) Dust on PC? This has my support.

Do not make the mistake of thinking PC players will be more loyal to Dust than console players. Both will grow weary of Dust equally fast i.m.o. The question is, will Dust have enough complexity and depth to push the playability/re-playability factor beyond the average console FPS? Personally, I think tying it into Eve will give it as much.

Time will tell.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#5 - 2011-12-08 20:42:13 UTC
Alx Warlord wrote:
Sorry, but PS3 is the only solution for a FPS... all pc FPS are ruined... and the integration between Eve and Dust is planned to be one of the most important evolution for the consoles in the lasts years....


This is the most fail opinion you've ever posted.

FPS started on the PC. It will end there.

Remember that.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Xandralkus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-12-08 21:18:15 UTC
PI needs a complete and total redesign for eve players to even think about PI-combat. Unless it has ISK output at least slightly analogous to lvl 4 mission running, incursions, or nullsec ratting, then they won't even be worth attacking or defending.

That entire concept of a slow but continuous ISK-generator simply does not work. I can easily make 100 mil ISK in an hour in an incursion - so unless the PI value of a 0.3 lowsec world goes up by a factor of a hundred or so, it's barely even worth a daily flight there in a hauling-frigate to fly stuff around and pick up robotics.

Perhaps CCP should consider making buildable orbital shipyards around planets, functioning much like POS towers? Building ships at a planet's orbital shipyards and a POS manufacturing array should be quite similar. Never mind the decision to 'nuke it into dust' vs. 'hire mercs to capture it' could be quite entertaining.

Eve UI wouldn't suck if CCP allowed UI addons.