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Multi-account trading?
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Montine FleurdeLys
DEEP-13
#1 - 2014-07-29 13:47:14 UTC
I am tossing around the idea of putting together a multi-account trading company.

My question at the moment is: How many traders could a person set up before they start getting in each other's way? By that I mean How many traders are able to work profitably ingame before they begin to overlap their areas, or become less profitable?

Right now I have three -- one near Jita, one near Amarr, and one near Dodixie.

Would it be a good strategy to set up multiple traders in a given region, but focus their trades on only certain items? Like for example in the Amarr area, have one dealing only in weapons, one in ships, one in modules, one in drones, ?

I should mention that I'd like to stay away from the station-trading, .01 isking method of trade, and focus on simply buying and selling region-wide. Low maintenance so I can do other things ingame.
Setsune Rin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-07-29 14:12:55 UTC
as long as you don't have two orders for the same item up in the same region you will not noticably interfere with yourself, across regions the impact of other traders is far more substantial then that buy order for the same item you have 3 regions over
Caimi Nulang
The Blue Lobster Project
#3 - 2014-07-30 01:28:37 UTC
Why do you need multiple traders in the same region. Logging into multiple accounts is a pain in itself and adds time to your trading schedule. If you are just trying to avoid jumping from one system to another then there are skills that can alleviate that need. More time adjusting trade orders and logging different accounts just means less ISK per hour. But that's none of my business.
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#4 - 2014-07-30 04:34:55 UTC
Working a multitude in alts, never a problem.

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
Vaako Omaristos
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-07-30 09:25:27 UTC
I did have a trading and mining alt, but i found that it detracted time and energy from my main so i just didn't bother and transferred all the assets to my main. Now i am skilling up for a mining barge.

Trader, industrialist and thinker. Follow my progress on my 141 trading challenge here
Tesal
#6 - 2014-08-01 22:07:51 UTC
Set up a separate training cue for a trade, mining and production alt. Train PvP on your main or a dedicated alt. Being restricted to industry may cause you to burn out and limits what you can do in game. The cash you get trading may give you solid support to pay for pvp losses and allow you to afford a wide variety of ships.
Litair
Nleesh
#7 - 2014-08-02 02:13:58 UTC
I get what you're trying to do, but I also think it's going to become unnecessarily difficult and bothersome to handle without any particularly synergetic effects.
What I found by far most profitable with just one alt in terms of trading, was to have it placed at Jita where stuff tends to be relatively cheap, and then have it buy stuff and set up courier contracts to transport the items to smaller hubs in the region I was at with this character to sell. A lot more effective than station trading, and much less 0.01 ISK'ing too.

Obviously if you want many alts, you can station them at various local hubs and send the Jita wares to the most profitable location.
Abidal Trekt
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-08-02 02:29:28 UTC
The only limitation would be that you can't spend more than 24/7 updating orders. You could, I am *positive*, has as many accounts as you pleased, plex them all, without any toons "getting in each others way," with the only upper limit being your own ability to handle the orders / courier contracts / etc, without resorting to bots. Let's do the maths!

Let's assume there are 900 items in the game worth trading (the real number is much higher). That means that with perfect inventory management, 1 account with x3 Tycoon V toons at 300 orders each could handle a set of 900 orders for one region.

Let's only take high sec space into account. There are 23 regions containing high sec systems. That's 23 accounts to manage 900 sell orders in each system. But that's only 1 way! You also need buy orders to get cheap crap! That's another 23 accounts. It takes me about 30 minutes to update a toon with 300 orders using Elinor. So that's 46x3x30minutes = 69 hours.

69 hours a day fellas.
Litair
Nleesh
#9 - 2014-08-02 14:56:38 UTC
Abidal Trekt wrote:
The only limitation would be that you can't spend more than 24/7 updating orders. You could, I am *positive*, has as many accounts as you pleased, plex them all, without any toons "getting in each others way," with the only upper limit being your own ability to handle the orders / courier contracts / etc, without resorting to bots. Let's do the maths!

Let's assume there are 900 items in the game worth trading (the real number is much higher). That means that with perfect inventory management, 1 account with x3 Tycoon V toons at 300 orders each could handle a set of 900 orders for one region.

Let's only take high sec space into account. There are 23 regions containing high sec systems. That's 23 accounts to manage 900 sell orders in each system. But that's only 1 way! You also need buy orders to get cheap crap! That's another 23 accounts. It takes me about 30 minutes to update a toon with 300 orders using Elinor. So that's 46x3x30minutes = 69 hours.

69 hours a day fellas.


Hm, better get started then!
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#10 - 2014-08-02 14:59:26 UTC
Abidal Trekt wrote:
The only limitation would be that you can't spend more than 24/7 updating orders. You could, I am *positive*, has as many accounts as you pleased, plex them all, without any toons "getting in each others way," with the only upper limit being your own ability to handle the orders / courier contracts / etc, without resorting to bots. Let's do the maths!

Let's assume there are 900 items in the game worth trading (the real number is much higher). That means that with perfect inventory management, 1 account with x3 Tycoon V toons at 300 orders each could handle a set of 900 orders for one region.

Let's only take high sec space into account. There are 23 regions containing high sec systems. That's 23 accounts to manage 900 sell orders in each system. But that's only 1 way! You also need buy orders to get cheap crap! That's another 23 accounts. It takes me about 30 minutes to update a toon with 300 orders using Elinor. So that's 46x3x30minutes = 69 hours.

69 hours a day fellas.


You should not update all orders, you should just update expiring orders, sort the order overview on time, and just update all orders under your treshhold, dont sell on the 3 month setting if you want the treshhold te be shorter. This gives a much lower time investment on the same mangement task.

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
Abidal Trekt
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-08-02 21:00:12 UTC
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
Abidal Trekt wrote:
The only limitation would be that you can't spend more than 24/7 updating orders. You could, I am *positive*, has as many accounts as you pleased, plex them all, without any toons "getting in each others way," with the only upper limit being your own ability to handle the orders / courier contracts / etc, without resorting to bots. Let's do the maths!

Let's assume there are 900 items in the game worth trading (the real number is much higher). That means that with perfect inventory management, 1 account with x3 Tycoon V toons at 300 orders each could handle a set of 900 orders for one region.

Let's only take high sec space into account. There are 23 regions containing high sec systems. That's 23 accounts to manage 900 sell orders in each system. But that's only 1 way! You also need buy orders to get cheap crap! That's another 23 accounts. It takes me about 30 minutes to update a toon with 300 orders using Elinor. So that's 46x3x30minutes = 69 hours.

69 hours a day fellas.


You should not update all orders, you should just update expiring orders, sort the order overview on time, and just update all orders under your treshhold, dont sell on the 3 month setting if you want the treshhold te be shorter. This gives a much lower time investment on the same mangement task.


I'm more interested in the rough & sexy maths than actually updating my orders ever.