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GIVE ALL BATTLESHIPS JUMP DRIVE GIVE BLACKOPS CLOAKY WARPING

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GREYBOBSASS
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-07-31 08:42:14 UTC
as in topic.


Allow cyno in hisec capitals and jf cant enter (to prevent mass smuggle lore wise)
FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#2 - 2014-07-31 09:00:09 UTC
Troll post is troll?

Please make a convincing case for your mockery of all things game balance wise...

Reported
GREYBOBSASS
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-07-31 09:05:19 UTC
Crazy idea would shake up things... wasnt different with ceptors, warp speeds bubble imunity... we need more things like that.
Sigras
Conglomo
#4 - 2014-07-31 09:30:03 UTC
yes, we need more things like that, not the idiocy that is the OP
Khador Vess
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2014-07-31 09:31:11 UTC
Some people just want to watch hi-sec burn.

Thorr VonAsgard
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-07-31 09:31:24 UTC
No

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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-07-31 09:40:31 UTC
FireFrenzy wrote:
Troll post is troll?

Please make a convincing case for your mockery of all things game balance wise...

Reported



REport? His idea has more merit than most thrown up here. Woudl at least certainly make battleships mroe useful. PRoblem lies on thefact that the game needs LESS cyno things, not more.

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Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#8 - 2014-07-31 11:18:14 UTC
Not supported.

Less instant travel not more.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#9 - 2014-07-31 11:38:10 UTC
No. Battleships are fine without a jump drive.

The ability to warp cloaked would be "fun" in a Black Ops ... but would probably end with major nerfs elsewhere to keep them from being far too overpowered to use

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#10 - 2014-07-31 11:44:15 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
No. Battleships are fine without a jump drive.

The ability to warp cloaked would be "fun" in a Black Ops ... but would probably end with major nerfs elsewhere to keep them from being far too overpowered to use

Everyone talks about that, but the reality is they already are slow moving, slow aligning, slow warping and slow locking anything.
A covert cloak is unlikely to actually break Black Ops, and could be added with a set review in a months time in case it does turn out too powerful. But given anything a Black Ops can do, a T3 can already do other than jump bridge, and that has nothing to do with the covert cloak, and Black Ops have pretty much THE longest training of any sub cap, I don't see swarms of Black Ops crushing all enemies even with a Covert cloak. I would however imagine they might actually see a bit more use, which is surely a good thing.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#11 - 2014-07-31 13:31:13 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
No. Battleships are fine without a jump drive.

The ability to warp cloaked would be "fun" in a Black Ops ... but would probably end with major nerfs elsewhere to keep them from being far too overpowered to use

Everyone talks about that, but the reality is they already are slow moving, slow aligning, slow warping and slow locking anything.
A covert cloak is unlikely to actually break Black Ops, and could be added with a set review in a months time in case it does turn out too powerful. But given anything a Black Ops can do, a T3 can already do other than jump bridge, and that has nothing to do with the covert cloak, and Black Ops have pretty much THE longest training of any sub cap, I don't see swarms of Black Ops crushing all enemies even with a Covert cloak. I would however imagine they might actually see a bit more use, which is surely a good thing.


So what if they're "slow" at things -- they're not interceptors ...

oh yes, giving a black ops a covops cloak will end up like how adding slots to freighters will only be a good thing, with no negative repercussions.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Mazzara
Band of the Red Sun
#12 - 2014-07-31 13:44:19 UTC
B.ops warping cloaked? Makes sense it should have all the bells and whisles.
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Xequecal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2014-07-31 14:08:28 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
No. Battleships are fine without a jump drive.

The ability to warp cloaked would be "fun" in a Black Ops ... but would probably end with major nerfs elsewhere to keep them from being far too overpowered to use

Everyone talks about that, but the reality is they already are slow moving, slow aligning, slow warping and slow locking anything.
A covert cloak is unlikely to actually break Black Ops, and could be added with a set review in a months time in case it does turn out too powerful. But given anything a Black Ops can do, a T3 can already do other than jump bridge, and that has nothing to do with the covert cloak, and Black Ops have pretty much THE longest training of any sub cap, I don't see swarms of Black Ops crushing all enemies even with a Covert cloak. I would however imagine they might actually see a bit more use, which is surely a good thing.


They have no locking delay. An artillery blackops BS could literally cloak/uncloak between volleys.
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#14 - 2014-07-31 14:11:10 UTC
A ridiculous suggestion with no reoccurend post of the OP and replying doesn't tell you anything? Roll
Karash Amerius
The Seven Shadows
Scotch And Tea.
#15 - 2014-07-31 15:32:26 UTC
This post needs more caps.

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#16 - 2014-07-31 15:54:14 UTC
Toasting in a troll bread.
WarFireV
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-07-31 16:04:27 UTC
Sure
Altirius Saldiaro
Doomheim
#18 - 2014-07-31 16:19:11 UTC
Jump Drives have become the fast travel of EVE. They need to be nerfed except on JF's and Black Ops. Carriers, Supers and Titans should be gimped in their power projection of travel.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-07-31 17:00:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
Xequecal wrote:


They have no locking delay. An artillery blackops BS could literally cloak/uncloak between volleys.



Kind of the sticking point in these threads. YOU get pilots like me who ca run blops who like the no delay. And we are assuming if co cloak was given this would be the bonus taken away as a caveat. My assumption based on widow.

CCP would go ohh, you want a big ass falcon? Well here you go..be just like falcon and tack on decloak delay. Lock times for stock widow suck, yes. Sebo res'ed has it get pretty close to falcon though for a fix, bs targets especially.

Now break out the stop watch as falcon and widow decloak same time and that widow will have the better time on reasonably sized targets like BS'. And I am being nice, I will give the falcon cloak 5 for least amount of delay.

Now one could say sebo the falcon...widow has the +1 mid to fit it better. Rainbow falcon sebo a bit tricky to fit in.


Some would say well maybe it be the speed boost while cloaked taken away. Just not seeing CCP making the widow a really big, much tankier half assed manticore, just now it have an ecm bonus too.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#20 - 2014-07-31 17:57:24 UTC
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