EVE New Citizens Q&A

im gonna train for a stealth bomber just dunno the which one
all i see is that manticore has more CPU than nemesis
can u guys tell me if there are more differences that i cant see?

-cheers
Ez

Each stealth bomber also has it's own bonus damage type. For the Manticore it's Kinetic and the Nemesis is Thermal.

Whoa... slow down there...

The problem with Stealth Bombers as a class is that they are specifically geared towards using Torpedos and stealth to sneak up and bombard bigger targets. They pay for this specialization by being "paper thin" and rather slow for a frigate (note: when I said the Nemesis was "faster" I meant relative to the Manticore).

Granted, you are not forced to use Torpedos and can fit light weaponry and a tank... but if fit this way you will not get very high numbers no matter what.


If you want a cloaky ship meant for direct combat then I suggest you look towards Tech 3 cruisers and the Sisters of EVE ships (the Astero and Stratios specifically).

Er... not at all. I am simply pointing out the strengths and weaknesses of both ships in addition to the strengths and weaknesses of the overall ship class.

It is up to you to weigh these factors and choose the ship you want.


What concerns me is that the impression I am getting from you is that you think Stealth Bombers are like other frigates... exceedingly fast and maneuverable... but with Torpedos and a cloak bolted on them... making them perfect for ganking other ships.

Sadly, this is not the case. SBs are actually more like slightly slower T1 destroyers with the tank of an unfit T1 frigate (see: you will be hard pressed to exceed 2000 m/sec OR 5000 hp... and you can't have both at the same time without severely cutting into your damage) and the damage of skilled Heavy Assault Cruiser.

This makes them VERY weak against pretty much anything except large, slow moving battlecruisers and battleships... and even those you need support to take down.

Basically... Stealth Bombers are a "wolfpack-gank" type ship. Alone they are, at worst, an annoyance to other ships... maybe able to dent a PvPer's tank or chew down an unprepared PvEer... but that is about it.
However, in small numbers and/or with support they are exceedingly deadly to anything that isn't faster than they are.

If you are going to be a "solo bomber " and harass wormhole/ provi miners like a pro, I would recommend the purifier. Does EM damage which can help since miners are shield tanked, can be tanked enough to deal with annoying miner drone damage, and can put out good dps due to more lows.

The manticore is versatile with the mid slots, but it has a lot of annoying fitting issues. The same can be said with the nemesis.


If you are going after wh ratters in bombers it can be done, but you need to wait until the sleepers are despawned. You are also going to need a few alts/friends as well.

I disagree here on both points. I've killed quite a few ratting drakes in my Nemesis and it's quite handy for them to be taking sleeper aggro in addition to your own fire. I even managed to kill one when the sleepers had switched to me (they don't like target painters apparently). Solo of course. And if it isn't going well, ratting ships generally don't have tackle.

Manticore and Nemesis are quite similar really, as far as fitting. Same number of slots, basically the same options for fitting. Nemesis is a bit tighter but good skills can solve that fairly easily. I think the main choosing point is the damage type. My preference would be the Nemesis for thermal damage. If you are interested in the Hound/Purifier as well they have some difference in fitting possibilities due to the different slot layout which some prefer.

Edit: Realized you said you want to do bombing rather than torpedos. Since a single bomb isn't really going to kill anything you're generally going to be in a group of bombers for this and you all need to use the same type of bombs or they will blow each other up (bombs have high resists to their own damage types). If you already have a group to go bombing with, train for whatever they are using.

As a Caldari flyer, I'm totally not biased at all , go manticore.