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Why are you still fighting in the 24th Imperial Crusade?

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Odelya d'Hanguest
Order of St. Severian
#1 - 2014-07-30 17:21:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Odelya d'Hanguest
In the Name of the Lord


Faithful!

“Why are you still fighting in the 24th Imperial Crusade?” That question I hear often. “It is a pointless war!” That is what the naysayers will repeat over and over. “Nothing is going to change, you are just wasting resources, killing innocents!” “CONCORD is just keeping capsuleers busy, so that they do not threaten the order of things!” “The 24th Imperial Crusade is a bunch of pirates and scum!” Enough I say! We have heard those arguments, and they change nothing! The Tribals are conquering Amarrian territory, terrorising your fellow Amarrians, killing the innocents and corrupting their kinsmen by forcing them into exile.

I ask: Do you have a heart and do you care for your people, o chosen of God? Do you know mercy and compassion? Do you still care for His commands and the imperative of the Reclaiming? Every capsuleer of Amarrian faith is obliged by the ordinances of divine law to contribute to the Reclaiming! To contribute to the promotion of virtue and prevention of vice! While the Kingdom and the Order will prevail forever and ever the Sarumite usurper will fall one day! But even now, while there is no legitimate Emperor, the ordinances of divine law stand.

There are many ways to contribute to the Reclaiming. Behind the fighting crusader there are doctors, scientists, engineers and resource harvesters, instructors, officials and employees from offices, proud representatives of every area of our intellectual life that even in the midst of war produces miracles of Amarrian genius and contributes to the Reclaiming. But I say to you today: Leave your peaceful post in the Kingdom, the Mandate and elsewhere and join the 24th Imperial Crusade! If your CEO begs you to stay, push him away and leave! To be cruel even to your mothers and fathers is the highest form of compassion here!

While it is undeniable that schismatic scum like PIE continues to make a travesty of the noble virtues of the Reclaiming, confusing it with pedantic and obsequious behaviour, no one shall be confused: Amarr is greater than the narrow minds of PIE (and Nicoletta Mithra, who will surely show up here sooner or later playing sycophant for PIE and bringing the odium theologicum). Do you have to follow rotten Sarumite principles to believe in Amarr? No! Do you need to follow a corrupting Theology Council to be Amarrian? No! Free yourself of evil and fight for the restoration of eternal Amarr! That’s what I am fighting for in the 24th Imperial Crusade—and will remain doing so.

Run and you shall be crushed.
Stand and you shall fall.
Kneel and you shall be saved


Laudetur Khanid! Amarr Victor!

Odelya Negin Intourtsetseg of House d’Hanguest, Begum of Palas, Duchess of Lustrevik, and its dependent territories, Porphyrogennete, Hyperprotopansebaste, servant of God and King
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#2 - 2014-07-30 17:31:22 UTC
When I fought for the 24th Imperial Crusade it was because they offered me a high pay.

❤️️💛💚💙💜

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#3 - 2014-07-30 17:34:51 UTC
The Bleak Lands do not belong to either the Minmatar or the Imperial Amarr.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#4 - 2014-07-30 17:39:20 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
When I fought for the 24th Imperial Crusade it was because they offered me a high pay.


I was going to say... I fight for the 24th IC because Shalee Lianne drove a Badger full of iskies into my hangar and I'm only human.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-07-30 17:48:26 UTC
Recruitment drive after a failed campaign.

By like, the worst recruiter ever.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#6 - 2014-07-30 17:54:18 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
Recruitment drive after a failed campaign.

By like, the worst recruiter ever.


Well, I guess they have to find alternative ways now that they don't have the resources to uphold the high pay.

❤️️💛💚💙💜

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#7 - 2014-07-30 18:01:32 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
When I fought for the 24th Imperial Crusade it was because they offered me a high pay.


I was going to say... I fight for the 24th IC because Shalee Lianne drove a Badger full of iskies into my hangar and I'm very Civire.


Fixed.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-07-30 18:05:32 UTC
Mizhir wrote:

Well, I guess they have to find alternative ways now that they don't have the resources to uphold the high pay.


Navy ships are quite popular,
I would assume they could afford better.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Vansimmirin
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-07-30 21:42:38 UTC
The original post is an affirmation, not a question. Rather than prattle needlessly on vanities, let us consider Her Excellency's homily.

Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:
I ask: Do you have a heart and do you care for your people, o chosen of God? Do you know mercy and compassion? Do you still care for His commands and the imperative of the Reclaiming? Every capsuleer of Amarrian faith is obliged by the ordinances of divine law to contribute to the Reclaiming! To contribute to the promotion of virtue and prevention of vice!

Here we are reminded of the greatest work charged to us by God: to shepherd back to faith all wayward souls. A lifetime's labor spent returning the great unwashed to His grace is our divine burden to bear.

(To respond: Questions of one's sacred duty are worth asking one's self in the sacrament of prayer. Listen to God's Word in your heart, not the ravings of the self-possessed.)

Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:
While the Kingdom and the Order will prevail forever and ever the Sarumite usurper will fall one day! But even now, while there is no legitimate Emperor, the ordinances of divine law stand.

Here included is a warning that the empires of men are imperfect in the sight of God, but that we are forgiven for our faults through our striving to live His commandments as a society.

(To respond: The Empire should ceaselessly seek the path shown by God. If the Empire falters, we have faltered, and what does that say about the path we, His children, have followed?)

Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:
There are many ways to contribute to the Reclaiming. Behind the fighting crusader there are doctors, scientists, engineers and resource harvesters, instructors, officials and employees from offices, proud representatives of every area of our intellectual life that even in the midst of war produces miracles of Amarrian genius and contributes to the Reclaiming.

Here is confirmation that all subjects of the Empire are indeed crusaders, supporting the efforts of Reclaiming through all their varied and sundry vocations.

(To respond: To insinuate that life's preservers and makers stand in rank with bloodthirsty militia capsuleers is disingenuous at best. On the horizon lays the Reclaiming, and the path we choose to reach it matters as much as the reaching.)

Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:
But I say to you today: Leave your peaceful post in the Kingdom, the Mandate and elsewhere and join the 24th Imperial Crusade! If your CEO begs you to stay, push him away and leave! To be cruel even to your mothers and fathers is the highest form of compassion here!

Here our duty is laid clear: the best use of God's most blessed and Chosen is to join the battle with the heathens of the cluster.

(To respond: This assertion that the continuous bloodletting will foster faith throughout the cluster is nihilistic. 'They must be destroyed to be saved' is a departure from the reason with which God has blessed us.)

Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:
“Why are you still fighting in the 24th Imperial Crusade?” That question I hear often. “It is a pointless war!” That is what the naysayers will repeat over and over. “Nothing is going to change, you are just wasting resources, killing innocents!” “CONCORD is just keeping capsuleers busy, so that they do not threaten the order of things!”

(To respond: Here, Her Excellency is mostly correct: the Crusade will change nothing, but it is far from pointless. The ceaseless husking of souls is the point, the chief aim of a treaty writ for the material gain of sadistic heathens. We will no more secure the Reclaiming through this folly than we will comprehend God's countenance. The cluster will not know the grace of God through this futile cycle, will not embrace their faith in Him through malice.

They must instead see His majesty manifest in magnificent creation, know the profound pity of being unworthy recipients of His divine blessing.
)
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-07-30 21:49:35 UTC
The real war (as opposed to capsuleer corporation conflicts, aka wardecs) is pointless only for callous, indifferent and disgusting persons, who can't realize, that when people go to war, they are ready to DIE to achieve their objectives.

If you see a certain capsuleer saying phrase like "pendulum war", you should know, that you are dealing with empty soul.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Laurentis Thiesant
Institute of Social Development
#11 - 2014-07-31 02:13:08 UTC
That being said, Diana, one can hate the existence of the war itself and still see due cause for contributing to the effort.

Whether we like it or not, it is happening.
Lives are being destroyed.
Families separated.
Colonies pillaged.

Those that remain in the low security systems are suffering the effects of this war.
It is a testament to their greater character that they have adapted over time, and have been able to continue on surviving under this strain. Certainly they are stronger now then before all this. Still, mere survival isn't enough.

Every reprieve that the Federal Defence Union can give the people of Placid and the surrounding areas should be celebrated as a win for weary souls. I believe that you all should find similar purpose in your own militias.

Every system the TLF holds reduces the likelihood of men, women and children being returned to slavery.
Every system the 24IC holds protects an Amarrian family from vengence should it become too overzealous.
Every system the STPRO holds allows the State to focus much needed resources elsewhere to help the rebuild of its crumbling economy.

Yes, it is a 'Pendulum War'. It is a nonsense that it continues to exist, thinking that it may effect grand politics and international order. For those who live in the warzone, who work in the warzone, the average everyday people however - it is their lives.
Anslo
Scope Works
#12 - 2014-07-31 02:17:14 UTC
Wat

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#13 - 2014-07-31 07:35:20 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
The Bleak Lands do not belong to either the Minmatar or the Imperial Amarr.


Still feeling somewhat exiled? That's funny, I thought Omir and his kin found themselves very comfortable in Delve.

Might want to join up with the Caldari in a 'give us our ancestral home back' campaign. Or learn from the Intaki and stop complaining.
  • Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim

Angels are never far...

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-07-31 07:44:17 UTC
Better join us, because, unlike Intaki, if you take something from Caldari, Caldari always return to take it back.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#15 - 2014-07-31 07:46:58 UTC
Just for the record Kim-haani, I wasn't actually suggesting Blood Raiders should join the war effort against the Federation, but...

Actually, nevermind. That's good holoreel material there. Where are those Scope sycophants when you need them?
  • Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim

Angels are never far...

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Indira Harashani
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#16 - 2014-07-31 11:24:33 UTC
Leopold Caine wrote:
Where are those Scope sycophants when you need them?

If I've been reading the IGS correctly, I believe the answer to this question is Huola.

Lady Indira Harashani

Holder of the Kheryskova Archipelago, Kihtaled IV

Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2014-07-31 12:15:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayallah
Vansimmirin wrote:
The original post is an affirmation, not a question.... (lots of words that mean basically nothing.)


Do not tell me it is worse, if this actually is what this woman believes?

That we are all her subjects or something and she is 'affirming' to calm us in times of trouble. ..she even has a hawker.

Did no one tell her that her killboard matters ten times more to the pos fueling pilot who works in the gold north of null ratting in his free time than her stupid pre-capsuleer authority?



God, someone should,


Let me be the first to welcome you into YC116.

And god, everyone knows you heed a Gallente public relations figure. Like, as Gallente as they come. No one uses Amarrians for public relations for a reason. God, or Matari.

You are better off buying a Paladin and getting your hands dirty. I heard there is Sansha and Raiders and worse creeping all over your space. I bet some of the capsuleers here have already started to get a hold of the market near where you live just to **** with you.


We have people like Nauplius now who blow up freighter loads of slaves, some of the people fought in the war you are affirming.



If you like we could meet somewhere Odelya and I could explain more...

I am thinking Khanid low sec, it is so lovely there this time of year. :)

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-07-31 12:51:23 UTC
I want to hear all about "the Paladin," and your resulting dirty hands, Ayallah.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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Odelya d'Hanguest
Order of St. Severian
#19 - 2014-07-31 12:53:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Odelya d'Hanguest
In the Name of the Lord


Vansimmirin, your sententiae are interesting, but largely incorrect. I instruct you to meditate more on the meaning of my message and the tenets of our prophets and saints. Hear my well-meaning advice!

Vansimmirin wrote:
(To respond: Questions of one's sacred duty are worth asking one's self in the sacrament of prayer. Listen to God's Word in your heart, not the ravings of the self-possessed.)

I see a Gallenteanised notion of “religion”, considered to be an inner disposition, only authentic if based on “true belief” and “virtues coming from the heart” etc., as opposed to “inauthentic social cohesion” and so on. It couldn’t be wronger. Belief does not matter as one think it does. It does not matter if you believe in the existence of gravity. You are objected to the laws of physics, whether you believe in them or not. If you decide to deny their existence and decide to act against them (by jumping from a tower in Dam-Torsad) you will die. If you act against God’s existence and His laws, you will be damned. Why should I have to stress my inner belief in God? Do I stress that I believe in oxygen? To claim that our sacred duties are to be found in prayer is only half the truth; only to execute what He has commanded makes our lives and faith complete.

Vansimmirin wrote:
(To respond: To insinuate that life's preservers and makers stand in rank with bloodthirsty militia capsuleers is disingenuous at best. On the horizon lays the Reclaiming, and the path we choose to reach it matters as much as the reaching.)

Vansimmirin wrote:
(To respond: This assertion that the continuous bloodletting will foster faith throughout the cluster is nihilistic. 'They must be destroyed to be saved' is a departure from the reason with which God has blessed us.)

The Lord has commanded and we will follow him. He finds triumph in sacrifice and extermination of His enemies, for throughout history the Lord punished the sinners and drowned them in their own blood:

Our Lord visited his flock and saw that all was not good.
Blasphemy and heresy ruled the land.
The Lord punished the sinners and drowned them in their own blood.
But the people of Amarr lived righteously and in fear of God.
Thus they were saved and became God's chosen.

- The Scriptures, Book II 2:1

There will be neither compassion nor mercy;
Nor peace, nor solace
For those who bear witness to these Signs
And still do not believe.

- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 25:10

Rejoice, o chosen of God"
For our blood fills this Valley of Death,
Proclaiming our sacrifice to God,
And he shall raise it up for all time

- The Scriptures, Saint Junip 15:11

Ayallah wrote:
If you like we could meet somewhere Odelya and I could explain more...

I am thinking Khanid low sec, it is so lovely there this time of year. :)

If you have a basic understanding of the text written above, you know where you can find me. It is not Khanid low sec.

Ayallah wrote:
Did no one tell her that her killboard matters ten times more to the pos fueling pilot who works in the gold north of null ratting in his free time than her stupid pre-capsuleer authority?

The “pos fueling pilot” is free to check that as well. That said I am who I am, and were I a Ni-Kunni shoeshine girl turned capsuleer I would say what I have to say; I do not speak for personal gain, but to remind you of the Lord's will and commands.

Odelya Negin Intourtsetseg of House d’Hanguest, Begum of Palas, Duchess of Lustrevik, and its dependent territories, Porphyrogennete, Hyperprotopansebaste, servant of God and King
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-07-31 13:24:59 UTC
Well, I tried.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

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