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goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#41 - 2014-07-28 23:40:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Goldiiee
Alexa Coates wrote:

those stats, jesus christ.

post fits for the love of spooge.


[Sleipnir, Pain and suffering]

5x 425mm AutoCannon II (Hail M)
2x Medium Energy Neutralizer II

Gistum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
2x Large Ancillary Shield Booster (Navy Cap Booster 150)
Republic Fleet Shield Boost Amplifier
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Damage Control II
4x Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Projectile Locus Coordinator II

5x Warrior II

[Statistics - Goldiiee]

Effective HP: 68,201 (Eve: 54,339)
Tank Ability: 6,645.48 DPS
Damage Profile - (EM: 25.00%, Ex: 25.00%, Ki: 25.00%, Th: 25.00%)
Shield Resists - EM: 91.48%, Ex: 82.96%, Ki: 84.70%, Th: 86.37%
Armor Resists - EM: 91.50%, Ex: 23.50%, Ki: 36.25%, Th: 72.38%

Capacitor (Lasts 1m 36s); 4m 12s with MWD off; 9m 0s MWD on Neuts off; 90% stable of course with Neuts and MWD off

Volley Damage: 3,213.30
DPS: 1,044.15

[Implants - Missions]

Slot 1: High-grade Crystal Alpha
Slot 2: High-grade Crystal Beta
Slot 3: High-grade Crystal Gamma
Slot 4: High-grade Crystal Delta
Slot 5: High-grade Crystal Epsilon
Slot 6: High-grade Crystal Omega
Slot 7: Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Motion Prediction MR-706
Slot 8: Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Medium Projectile Turret MP-806
Slot 9: Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Surgical Strike SS-906
Slot 10: Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Large Projectile Turret LP-1006

Take into account I made a small fortune doing Incursions, then made another small fortune investing the first one in the market, this is not something you want to lose in PVP unless you have a fleet of them waiting to be boarded in Amarr.

Late Edit; these stats are with my perfect booster toon in fleet with a mindlink, without it the stats are a bit less but still impressive nonetheless.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Danny John-Peter
The Congregation
RAPID HEAVY ROPERS
#42 - 2014-07-29 07:36:46 UTC
Not gonna lie that thats a pretty bad fit.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2014-07-29 08:08:19 UTC  |  Edited by: ChromeStriker
Troll fit is troll lol

PvP... yet no point....?

Considering everything short of a battledship will be able to kite the majority of your dmg thats just a glorious killmail waiting to happen....

Small gang... its a bit slow, links would be more useful, and tbh what exactly do you expect it to do?

PvE....

A torp Phoon would prob have better application Shocked

....And you dont need that last implant, or the neuts...

No Worries
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#44 - 2014-07-29 08:13:48 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
tbh what exactly do you expect it to do?

Sniping of course, it's obvious by the rigs.

Oh god.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2014-07-29 08:19:10 UTC  |  Edited by: ChromeStriker
Riot Girl wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
tbh what exactly do you expect it to do?

Sniping of course, it's obvious by the rigs.


... Max range with that fit would be... 30km... ish? Its hard in eve sometimes to figure out if someones being serious Sad

I was just messing around with it myself and i like an arti fit more....

No Worries
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#46 - 2014-07-29 08:20:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Riot Girl
It adds about 0.6km optimal, I believe. lol.
Edit: I mean the rig, sorry. Ugh, sarcasm w/e.

Oh god.
Danny John-Peter
The Congregation
RAPID HEAVY ROPERS
#47 - 2014-07-29 08:25:36 UTC
As an Aside CS are very effective, SnuffBox obviously makes a lot of use out of the Abso (TIII Tank but with added Gank), the Sleipnir and Claymore are good solo options as well, there are a lot CS can do while also looking more engagable than a TIII gang and generally having more gank than a TIII gang.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2014-07-29 08:26:02 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
It adds about 0.6km optimal, I believe. lol.
Edit: I mean the rig, sorry. Ugh, sarcasm w/e.


Its still quite early, and ive just been through the science and industry section... no worries...

No Worries
goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#49 - 2014-07-29 08:52:23 UTC
Yeah, My bad posted just before heading to bed. I put the wrong rig on in EVE-HQ Fitter, my bad. But you get the idea.

I sure would hope you don't attempt take this on a solo kill, as it works so much better with a Rapier partner and would just be useless alone. You guys are supposed to be the smart ones here right?

FYI, we used a T1-Rigged Version with great effect in the NEO Tournament so if you need to see how it works look up those videos.

To early to post with Quotes, but I think that covers everone's questions and comments.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#50 - 2014-07-29 09:28:07 UTC
Sleipnir

That's a sort of basic brawler fit that costs nothing. At that point you can do 2 things:

Spend a few hundre million on Faction mods, or buy a set of Low/Mid-Grade Crystals - it will cost < 700mil for the full set (and half of that is the Omega). Swallow a standard Blue Pill and you're tanking >2k dps on 1 overheated XLASB.

I'd say the main reason CS's aren't used is due to how slow they are - combined with eve's tendancy to blob and hot drop anything bigger than a cruisers it makes them an easy loss-mail.
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2014-07-29 10:26:41 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
Sleipnir

That's a sort of basic brawler fit that costs nothing. At that point you can do 2 things:

Spend a few hundre million on Faction mods, or buy a set of Low/Mid-Grade Crystals - it will cost < 700mil for the full set (and half of that is the Omega). Swallow a standard Blue Pill and you're tanking >2k dps on 1 overheated XLASB.

I'd say the main reason CS's aren't used is due to how slow they are - combined with eve's tendancy to blob and hot drop anything bigger than a cruisers it makes them an easy loss-mail.



And what you gonna kill with that? So much tank.. so much fitting wasted on that. And your dps and cap are nothing amazing.. you are slow. At end any Hac or T3 will escape you.. and any battleship with a neut (And properly pvp fit) will defeat you.


Over tanking is a waste. Tyis ships cannot succeed (usually) in a fight that will deploy so much DPS on them anyway (because that means too many enemies tackling you and probably having logis). If you need to face so much incoming dps, then you wil be in a small gang with a logistic, otherwise your best bet is on a nano ship to try to separate enemies.

If you want to try the brute force Banzai approach, with low mobility and waste isk, then use a Hyperion. It is far better for the job.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#52 - 2014-07-29 11:48:17 UTC
Goldiiee wrote:
Alexa Coates wrote:

those stats, jesus christ.

post fits for the love of spooge.


[Sleipnir, Pain and suffering]

5x 425mm AutoCannon II (Hail M)
2x Medium Energy Neutralizer II

Gistum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
2x Large Ancillary Shield Booster (Navy Cap Booster 150)
Republic Fleet Shield Boost Amplifier
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Damage Control II
4x Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Projectile Locus Coordinator II

5x Warrior II

[Statistics - Goldiiee]

Effective HP: 68,201 (Eve: 54,339)
Tank Ability: 6,645.48 DPS
Damage Profile - (EM: 25.00%, Ex: 25.00%, Ki: 25.00%, Th: 25.00%)
Shield Resists - EM: 91.48%, Ex: 82.96%, Ki: 84.70%, Th: 86.37%
Armor Resists - EM: 91.50%, Ex: 23.50%, Ki: 36.25%, Th: 72.38%

Capacitor (Lasts 1m 36s); 4m 12s with MWD off; 9m 0s MWD on Neuts off; 90% stable of course with Neuts and MWD off

Volley Damage: 3,213.30
DPS: 1,044.15

[Implants - Missions]

Slot 1: High-grade Crystal Alpha
Slot 2: High-grade Crystal Beta
Slot 3: High-grade Crystal Gamma
Slot 4: High-grade Crystal Delta
Slot 5: High-grade Crystal Epsilon
Slot 6: High-grade Crystal Omega
Slot 7: Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Motion Prediction MR-706
Slot 8: Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Medium Projectile Turret MP-806
Slot 9: Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Surgical Strike SS-906
Slot 10: Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Large Projectile Turret LP-1006

Take into account I made a small fortune doing Incursions, then made another small fortune investing the first one in the market, this is not something you want to lose in PVP unless you have a fleet of them waiting to be boarded in Amarr.

Late Edit; these stats are with my perfect booster toon in fleet with a mindlink, without it the stats are a bit less but still impressive nonetheless.


This has nothing to do w/ the pve question that was asked and everything to do with how awesome you are. I'm over you, please do the same.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#53 - 2014-07-29 12:08:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Maeltstome
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Maeltstome wrote:
Sleipnir

That's a sort of basic brawler fit that costs nothing. At that point you can do 2 things:

Spend a few hundre million on Faction mods, or buy a set of Low/Mid-Grade Crystals - it will cost < 700mil for the full set (and half of that is the Omega). Swallow a standard Blue Pill and you're tanking >2k dps on 1 overheated XLASB.

I'd say the main reason CS's aren't used is due to how slow they are - combined with eve's tendancy to blob and hot drop anything bigger than a cruisers it makes them an easy loss-mail.



And what you gonna kill with that? So much tank.. so much fitting wasted on that. And your dps and cap are nothing amazing.. you are slow. At end any Hac or T3 will escape you.. and any battleship with a neut (And properly pvp fit) will defeat you.


Over tanking is a waste. Tyis ships cannot succeed (usually) in a fight that will deploy so much DPS on them anyway (because that means too many enemies tackling you and probably having logis). If you need to face so much incoming dps, then you wil be in a small gang with a logistic, otherwise your best bet is on a nano ship to try to separate enemies.

If you want to try the brute force Banzai approach, with low mobility and waste isk, then use a Hyperion. It is far better for the job.


You are talking about text-book hi-sec war stuff. Hyperions are great for jumping into losec camps 1v10 but im afraid we don't all have stations we can sit on and de-aggress when the carebears get the numbers advantage. And that fit doesn't give a **** about neuts. 2 Small nos keeps hardeners and tackle running under neut pressure (small nos for the fast cycle time Vs heavy neuts... huehuehue?)

So while you spooge over the 700DPS your kiting cruiser does, please take into account this ship fights <5KM so it's effective damage is better than your applied damage 90% into falloff.
goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#54 - 2014-07-29 12:09:59 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:

This has nothing to do w/ the pve question that was asked and everything to do with how awesome you are. I'm over you, please do the same.

Well thanks for thinking I am awesome, but really anyone with 5 minutes and a fitting tool can make extreme examples of Tank, DPS or Speed.

My post wasn't to make you or your wallet feel inferior it was an answer to Alexa Coates request for what fit I based those numbers on, I wasn't going to reply to your sarcastic remark at all hence why I didn't quote you in the post.

And as a final remark, when I do use this for PVE (Epic Arcs and LVL4's, with a slightly different setup) I might need one or two cycles from the ASB to complete most any mission. So for PVE it works very well if you like the 'get up close and brawl' or have spawns that land on top of you.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#55 - 2014-07-29 14:16:39 UTC
Your ship fit is nutty. Your need for maxed out implants to fly your nutty ship is nutty.

If you actually built that mess and actually jump into that clone to fly said mess.... you remind me of an acorn.

Your personal recovery plan:
1. Delete EFT and don't re download it for 4 months (you will survive)
2. Run a few missions in a maelstrom (see.... you don't NEED all that crap)
3. Stop hanging out w/ the max/min ninnies that blitz incursions
4. Have some fun
goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#56 - 2014-07-29 14:34:56 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Your ship fit is nutty. Your need for maxed out implants to fly your nutty ship is nutty.

If you actually built that mess and actually jump into that clone to fly said mess.... you remind me of an acorn.

Your personal recovery plan:
1. Delete EFT and don't re download it for 4 months (you will survive)
2. Run a few missions in a maelstrom (see.... you don't NEED all that crap)
3. Stop hanging out w/ the max/min ninnies that blitz incursions
4. Have some fun

And again you missed the point, is it endemic, or just apathetic, it is a Theoretical fit to Demonstrate how you get 1000dps and a 6k tank as requested.

And your remarks strike me as someone that still struggles in the game, with an attitude of 'If I can't afford it then it must be a waste' but I digress.

key words here to help with your next post;
Theoretical
Demonstrate


Your prescription;
Uninstall EVE and go play Solitaire, then you can finally achieve your dream of being the smartest guy in the game.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#57 - 2014-07-29 15:28:22 UTC
I believe the world you where looking for was demonstrable - don't try and use big words to make yourself look intelligent.

A better word would have been practical

And I'm forced to agree with some other posters - your fit isn't even theoretical, it's a unicorn. Find me one and we'll talk.
Jonas Staal
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2014-07-29 15:36:59 UTC
Thanks for all the comments, they are very helpfull!


As for the theory crafting, I'm glad to see how, and which numbers CS are able to reach.

I am looking to use it however, without putting a 1+invuln on it, or using a 500mil+ clone.
goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#59 - 2014-07-29 16:03:55 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
I believe the world you where looking for was demonstrable - don't try and use big words to make yourself look intelligent.

A better word would have been practical

And I'm forced to agree with some other posters - your fit isn't even theoretical, it's a unicorn. Find me one and we'll talk.

You thought those were big confusing words?


Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#60 - 2014-07-29 16:34:15 UTC
ninny
nutty
acorn

these are words I understand