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A Billion Worth Team !!!

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Team Bidders
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-07-29 09:03:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Team Bidders
Yesterday Team MS101 from True Creations was auctioned for 1,005,000,028 ISK. Does this set a world record? Probably. Unfortunately, CCP never released the price for the winning bids except to the players who joined the bid.

So what's special with team? It can readuce the materials requirement of the large class ships. More specifically, it can reduce

6% materials for Marauders,
3% material for Black Ops and
2% for all T1 battleships.

The price for using that team is 8% of job installation costs. Given the fact that the winning system has a job index of only 0.01, it will increase the cost by only 0.08% of build cost. Now you see why this is indeed a GREAT team!!

BTW, solar system Anjedin has won 18 teams so far! This is a system without any NPC station. Something big is definitely happening there!

The following is the mail I received from CONCORD concerning the auction. ( Yes, I joined the bidding intentionally. ) All the information except for the winning price can be found in Industry window.

Team Auction Lost
From: CONCORD
Sent: 2014.07.28 11:56

Your bid on True Creations
Team MS101 was not successful. Anjedin had the highest bid of 1,005,000,028 ISK. Your bid of 1,000,000 ISK will be returned to you. True Creations

Team MS101 is now available for hire in Anjedin.
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-07-29 09:05:44 UTC
i imagine someone accidentally added a few zeroes and is now regretting life
Team Bidders
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-07-29 09:30:57 UTC
Rowells wrote:
i imagine someone accidentally added a few zeroes and is now regretting life


That's not true.

Several hours before the auction ended, the price tag already went up to 500M. So the winner intentionally raised the bid to 1B.

Go to Industry window and see for yourself. There are other teams currently in the auction process. The highest one I can see ATM is 400M. (You can sort all teams based on auction price.)
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#4 - 2014-07-29 10:28:02 UTC
It's a world record until next one. Same as with all price tags.

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Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#5 - 2014-07-29 10:36:49 UTC
So - there must be a POS in that system with billions upon billions of materials in it :) Hell, if they can throw a billion on a team who knows how big ransom they are willing to pay Twisted

Ofc it's not my can of worms. I'm just stating the obvious first thought popping into mind of anyone taking note of something like that happening.

Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK! GOT the bastard.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#6 - 2014-07-29 10:40:00 UTC
Carniflex wrote:
So - there must be a POS in that system with billions upon billions of materials in it :) Hell, if they can throw a billion on a team who knows how big ransom they are willing to pay Twisted

Ofc it's not my can of worms. I'm just stating the obvious first thought popping into mind of anyone taking note of something like that happening.


Except that this is S&I, and I'm pretty sure that a high percentage of the readers / posters are the "live and let live" type.

... now, if someone were to accidentally let some C&P regulars in ...

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#7 - 2014-07-29 10:43:49 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Carniflex wrote:
So - there must be a POS in that system with billions upon billions of materials in it :) Hell, if they can throw a billion on a team who knows how big ransom they are willing to pay Twisted

Ofc it's not my can of worms. I'm just stating the obvious first thought popping into mind of anyone taking note of something like that happening.


Except that this is S&I, and I'm pretty sure that a high percentage of the readers / posters are the "live and let live" type.

... now, if someone were to accidentally let some C&P regulars in ...




...oh, we have eyes everywhere...

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Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#8 - 2014-07-29 10:52:23 UTC
Velicitia wrote:


Except that this is S&I, and I'm pretty sure that a high percentage of the readers / posters are the "live and let live" type.

... now, if someone were to accidentally let some C&P regulars in ...


Ice miners are the best gate campers. They can stare at the gate for hours without blinking waiting for that gate flash without getting bored. Blink

Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK! GOT the bastard.
Vyktor Abyss
Abyss Research
#9 - 2014-07-29 10:58:03 UTC
There have been a few really "overpriced" bids on teams I've noticed so far...

Oddly enough another Marauders manufacturing bonus team went for 250m to some backwater lowsec system and quite a few 500m plus bids for Capital bonuses, which seem fair enough.

Would be nice to see the maths of how many marauders the system would need to build in a month just to cover the cost of the team though...

I'd expect it it to be in the hundreds for such small benefits - I feel the bids are almost all way over optimal right now for actual cost effectiveness for the novelty factor at the moment. I'm sure in a few months most of these teams will be unemployed or costing way way less.
Tamarana
C.L.A.W.
#10 - 2014-07-29 12:01:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Tamarana
Vyktor Abyss wrote:
There have been a few really "overpriced" bids on teams I've noticed so far...

Oddly enough another Marauders manufacturing bonus team went for 250m to some backwater lowsec system and quite a few 500m plus bids for Capital bonuses, which seem fair enough.

Would be nice to see the maths of how many marauders the system would need to build in a month just to cover the cost of the team though...

I'd expect it it to be in the hundreds for such small benefits - I feel the bids are almost all way over optimal right now for actual cost effectiveness for the novelty factor at the moment. I'm sure in a few months most of these teams will be unemployed or costing way way less.


Around 20-25 Vargur to cover the cost of the team.
The rest is all gain.
So, if they build a lot of Marauder and Black ops and Battleship, they will be able to profit from the low Job Index of the system and then from the bonuses of the teams (and probably from the bonuses from multiple labs and assemblies).

Next month they will move to another underused or just unused system and repeat the auctions and the process (the job index in the previous system going thru the roof).


Send a fleet of grievers into the system, but I hope they are very well prepared, because there will be a lot of resistance.
probag Bear
Xiong Offices
#11 - 2014-07-29 12:04:51 UTC
Vyktor Abyss wrote:
There have been a few really "overpriced" bids on teams I've noticed so far...

Oddly enough another Marauders manufacturing bonus team went for 250m to some backwater lowsec system and quite a few 500m plus bids for Capital bonuses, which seem fair enough.

Would be nice to see the maths of how many marauders the system would need to build in a month just to cover the cost of the team though...

I'd expect it it to be in the hundreds for such small benefits - I feel the bids are almost all way over optimal right now for actual cost effectiveness for the novelty factor at the moment. I'm sure in a few months most of these teams will be unemployed or costing way way less.


My 100m team already saved me ~280mil, during the single day I've done Crius S&I. 1b is not that much.
SJ Astralana
Syncore
#12 - 2014-07-29 12:08:58 UTC  |  Edited by: SJ Astralana
It's higher than I would pay, but it's easily believable that for a producer more than about 4x my size it was underpriced. This is where the game is headed.

Also, for the next patch, sniper rules lol.

Hyperdrive your production business: Eve Production Manager

Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#13 - 2014-07-29 13:50:56 UTC
Carniflex wrote:
Velicitia wrote:


Except that this is S&I, and I'm pretty sure that a high percentage of the readers / posters are the "live and let live" type.

... now, if someone were to accidentally let some C&P regulars in ...


Ice miners are the best gate campers. They can stare at the gate for hours without blinking waiting for that gate flash without getting bored. Blink
What? No! Ice miners are the worst gatecampers. They're always watching a movie or playing a browser game, and only come back to check the gate once every 15-30mins.

Who put the goat in there?
Velicitia
XS Tech
#14 - 2014-07-29 14:25:32 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Carniflex wrote:
So - there must be a POS in that system with billions upon billions of materials in it :) Hell, if they can throw a billion on a team who knows how big ransom they are willing to pay Twisted

Ofc it's not my can of worms. I'm just stating the obvious first thought popping into mind of anyone taking note of something like that happening.


Except that this is S&I, and I'm pretty sure that a high percentage of the readers / posters are the "live and let live" type.

... now, if someone were to accidentally let some C&P regulars in ...




...oh, we have eyes everywhere...


shhhhh Don't let them know!Cool

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Arcosian
Arcosian Heavy Industries Corp Holding
#15 - 2014-07-29 14:55:13 UTC
Tamarana wrote:
Vyktor Abyss wrote:
There have been a few really "overpriced" bids on teams I've noticed so far...

Oddly enough another Marauders manufacturing bonus team went for 250m to some backwater lowsec system and quite a few 500m plus bids for Capital bonuses, which seem fair enough.

Would be nice to see the maths of how many marauders the system would need to build in a month just to cover the cost of the team though...

I'd expect it it to be in the hundreds for such small benefits - I feel the bids are almost all way over optimal right now for actual cost effectiveness for the novelty factor at the moment. I'm sure in a few months most of these teams will be unemployed or costing way way less.


Around 20-25 Vargur to cover the cost of the team.
The rest is all gain.
So, if they build a lot of Marauder and Black ops and Battleship, they will be able to profit from the low Job Index of the system and then from the bonuses of the teams (and probably from the bonuses from multiple labs and assemblies).

Next month they will move to another underused or just unused system and repeat the auctions and the process (the job index in the previous system going thru the roof).


Send a fleet of grievers into the system, but I hope they are very well prepared, because there will be a lot of resistance.

If they build their own components it's about 4 marauders to recoup the cost since they would be making about 225mil profit per ship.
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2014-07-29 14:56:28 UTC
capital and supercap teams go for more

also i snagged a 6% marauder team a few days ago for like 50m so whoever paid 1b for that is insane
Calvin Recline
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2014-07-29 15:06:19 UTC
Retar Aveymone wrote:
capital and supercap teams go for more

also i snagged a 6% marauder team a few days ago for like 50m so whoever paid 1b for that is insane


price and demand.. new concept I hear.
Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists
Intergalactic Conservation Movement
#18 - 2014-07-29 19:10:10 UTC
When you place bids they are additive.

If you placed a bid of 500mil, then a competitor places a bid of 510mil, if you post 520mil down it will raise your total for that team to 1020million.

Working as intended?
Ginger Barbarella
#19 - 2014-07-29 21:30:23 UTC
Sir SmashAlot wrote:
When you place bids they are additive.

If you placed a bid of 500mil, then a competitor places a bid of 510mil, if you post 520mil down it will raise your total for that team to 1020million.

Working as intended?



That's a bug, I believe. I've noticed that my bids are often added to the current bid or inflated beyond anything I can figure out on the differences between current high and my bid. I filed a petition about 5 days ago and CCP hasn't even opened it yet.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#20 - 2014-07-29 21:45:15 UTC
Sir SmashAlot wrote:
When you place bids they are additive.

If you placed a bid of 500mil, then a competitor places a bid of 510mil, if you post 520mil down it will raise your total for that team to 1020million.

Working as intended?


working as intended.

Because you could just add in a bid for 20 million, and take the entire system bid up to 520.

Remember, these aren't individual person bids, they're system level. It's a pot you throw isk into.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

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