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A New way to get screwed on the market?

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Mining Mistress
Ghost Rangers Ind LTD
#1 - 2014-07-28 23:31:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Mining Mistress
Bought 5000 from a seller that had exactly 5000 melted capacitor console, the order was 5th from the top. Bought it because I needed the quantity. Pressed buy, ALL 5 orders that was in front of this order disappeared and I received my 5000, BUT when I checked my wallet, I bought it from 5 different people and the price for the items above the 5000 was lower in price, sooooo wtf happened and how did it happen, a new market script ?
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#2 - 2014-07-29 00:14:03 UTC
Mining Mistress wrote:
Bought 5000 from a seller that had exactly 5000 melted capacitor console, the order was 5th from the top. Bought it because I needed the quantity. Pressed buy, ALL 5 orders that was in front of this order disappeared and I received my 5000, BUT when I checked my wallet, I bought it from 5 different people and the price for the items above the 5000 was lower in price, sooooo wtf happened and how did it happen, a new market script ?


This would be so good for working markets... just tested, not working :(

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HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-07-29 00:24:18 UTC  |  Edited by: HeXxploiT
If there are 5 sellers in a station each selling at a different price,

30 .05
30 .06
30 .07
30 .08
30 .09

and you right click on any one of these to buy, it will automatically purchase from the cheapest items.(or the top if prices are identical)

Even if you click on the .09 you'll still get the cheapest as the natural assumption is that you want the goods as cheap as possible.

This changes accordingly when other stations/systems come into play.
It's not possible to buy an item from a station until the cheaper items in that station have been purchased first.
Balaster McNugget
Into The Plasma Inc
#4 - 2014-07-29 00:28:40 UTC
HeXxploiT wrote:
It's not possible to buy an item from a station until the cheaper items in that station have been purchased first.


this
Mining Mistress
Ghost Rangers Ind LTD
#5 - 2014-07-29 00:29:51 UTC
HeXxploiT wrote:
If there are 5 sellers in a station each selling at a different price,

30 .05
30 .06
30 .07
30 .08
30 .09

and you right click on any one of these to buy, it will automatically purchase from the cheapest items.(or the top if prices are identical)

Even if you click on the .09 you'll still get the cheapest as the natural assumption is that you want the goods as cheap as possible.

This changes accordingly when other stations/systems come into play.
It's not possible to buy an item from a station until the cheaper items in that station have been purchased first.



did you get the part where the originial 5000 was already up to be sold. IF it happened as you say it did then the one I picked would still have leftover items to be sold on that order
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#6 - 2014-07-29 01:14:43 UTC
Mining Mistress wrote:
HeXxploiT wrote:
If there are 5 sellers in a station each selling at a different price,

30 .05
30 .06
30 .07
30 .08
30 .09

and you right click on any one of these to buy, it will automatically purchase from the cheapest items.(or the top if prices are identical)

Even if you click on the .09 you'll still get the cheapest as the natural assumption is that you want the goods as cheap as possible.

This changes accordingly when other stations/systems come into play.
It's not possible to buy an item from a station until the cheaper items in that station have been purchased first.



did you get the part where the originial 5000 was already up to be sold. IF it happened as you say it did then the one I picked would still have leftover items to be sold on that order


It always buys from the cheapest order on the market, at the price you specify (from the order you click).
Eliram Kahoudi
Big Fluffy Bunnies
#7 - 2014-07-29 01:54:59 UTC
So you are saying you wanted to buy 5000 of something. willing to pay the higher price. Got the 5000 and paid the higher price and you got screwed?
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#8 - 2014-07-29 02:28:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhivre
You cannot chose which order to buy from, but, you can pick any price above the order price you want.

The method you used is commonly used when buying in bulk to save clicking on every damn order
Tesal
#9 - 2014-07-29 03:42:07 UTC
Set your overview to have the lowest price as the top choice. The sale always goes to the lowest price choice.

You can pay more than the lowest if you select one that is higher, but the orders will always be filled by the lowest order first.
SJ Astralana
Syncore
#10 - 2014-07-29 08:27:45 UTC
I feel like my reading comprehension is failing me.

I routinely see sell transactions for higher than my sell price, and this is due to people clicking on another higher priced order and buying. This has been true since the beginning of time. If this is no longer true, I'm truly not fussed because I've always hated that mechanic even while benefiting from it (as I always hated stupidly low factory costs, and am starting to love the new changes) but if the mechanic has changed only out of curiosity I'd like to know.

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Cista2
EVE Museum
#11 - 2014-07-29 09:14:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Cista2
SJ Astralana wrote:
I feel like my reading comprehension is failing me.

I routinely see sell transactions for higher than my sell price, and this is due to people clicking on another higher priced order and buying. This has been true since the beginning of time. If this is no longer true, I'm truly not fussed because I've always hated that mechanic even while benefiting from it (as I always hated stupidly low factory costs, and am starting to love the new changes) but if the mechanic has changed only out of curiosity I'd like to know.


It is like it always was. The OP confused matters.

He writes "I bought it from 5 different people and the price for the items above the 5000 was lower in price".

What he means is "the ADVERTISED price for the items above the 5000 was lower in price", not the price he PAID for them. He paid the higher price because he clicked the higher price, as always happens.
I tested it a moment ago.

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Kendra Coldera
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2014-07-29 13:20:19 UTC
Obviously. You told your Broker you want 5000 XXX at XX.XX ISK and he gave you what you wanted.

If you want to pay less you have to tell him 37 at XX.XX ISK, 537 at XX.XX ISK etc...
Velicitia
XS Tech
#13 - 2014-07-29 13:26:07 UTC
Kendra Coldera wrote:
Obviously. You told your Broker you want 5000 XXX at XX.XX ISK and he gave you what you wanted.

If you want to pay less you have to tell him 37 at XX.XX ISK, 537 at XX.XX ISK etc...



^this, which is a pain.

So, if the prices are "close enough", then you just say 5,000 at XX.XX ISK.


Now, the market doesn't refresh all that fast, so if you see:

30.00 -- 100
30.01 -- 325
30.02 -- 500
30.03 -- 175
30.04 -- 500
30.05 -- 10,000

and you buy 5,000 at 30.05, you have the possibility of seeing something like this in your wallet:

Player 1 - 325
Player 2 - 500
Player 3 - 175
Player 4 - 500
Player 5 - 3500

Because that first order (100 @ 30.00) got bought, and the market didn't refresh until AFTER you submitted your order.

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Mining Mistress
Ghost Rangers Ind LTD
#14 - 2014-07-29 23:04:06 UTC
ok, it's been explained. I never seen it happen like that before after 6 years.

cheers