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I always read how Hi-sec has been buffed.

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Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#1 - 2014-07-28 06:18:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Tennej
So I am reading the forums and somebody will complain about a hisec nerf and many people will rebutt that nerf with the statement "of look at all the hisec buffs". I'm blind I guess because I cant see them.

As an experiment I pretended to be a new player looking for something to make isk on.

Attempt: First I tried ninja salvaging.... It used to make me alot of isk.

Result: New AI switched immediately to my little punisher salvager everytime I entered a mission bear's site. I tried a few times as well and the new AI protected the mission bear from any damage I could do.

Conclusion: Nerf




Attempt: Go sit on some static 1/10 Plexs and hopefully spawn a c-type repper or something.

Result: Open up starmap and cant find any 1/10's. After Googling "Where are 1/10's" the result was that `1/10-'s are no longer static and must be scanned down. WTH....

Conclusion: Nerf




Attempt: OK if they want me to scan so I'll scan down some rare rock sites and go mine them. Maybe I'll get lucky and score a Large Jaspet or something. Can't find any and have been to like 10 systems. Back to google.....

Result: These are now anomalies like null ratting sites. Setting the scanner to show anoms brings them up. Unfortunately they get mined out super fast. I visited 3 and no rocks of value left in any. I guess this is something you do only right after downtime.

Conclusion: Nerf




Attempt: Regular Ice mining. Ok I already heard they made the Ice sites anoms and they spawn now every 4 hours. I grab a procurer and start hunting down some ice. Visit 3 systems I know used to have ice and nothing. Damn this is turning into alot of jumps.... Time to Open Dotlan. Visit 2 more systems again no ICE..... I give up.

Result: No ICE to be found and I've jumped around quite a bit.....not worth anymore effort.

Conclusion: Nerf



Attempt: I'm already in a minery ship might as well mine. Run to my favorite System with no starbases in it and go to a safe and drop a few giant freights to fill up.

Result: Evidently, I'm too late. The neighborhood ISboxers (GeewingCheong or Kamikaze or LTC Vuvicovich) Have ransacked the system again. Either all the belts are gone or healing with tiny rocks. I mine a few of the healing belts but give up since the output is ridiculous. I gotta start thinking about setting an alarm clock and doing this right after DT.

Conclusion: Meh not a Nerf or Buff.... basically just sucks.




Attempt: I got a Harby.... lets go do some lvl 3 missions. The ship bounties arent great but its something to do and the salvage can net some good isk.

Result: Man these MTU's are a boon for salvaging. They pull everything in and I got a destroyer with 8 salvagers. Missions are easy with a Harbinger. Making a little bit of isk. After about 2 storylines I'm getting sleepy. Lets collect up all the salvage and call it. So evidently there are no more drone alloys or Meta 0 modules in salvage. That sucks. Used to be good minerals in that.

Conclusion: Buff and Nerf and another Nerf. MTU is crazy great so is a nice Buff. Loss of drone alloys and meta 0 Modules suck alot. Refine nerf on modules is really felt here.





To tired to do any scanning but evidently its supposed to be easier and more interesting. I'll try that at a later date.




Maybe as a new player I'm doing it wrong but I dont see all these Buffs that everybody is talking about. Just a lot of nerfs. Kinda glad I didnt subscribe and still on a trial account. Game doesnt seem to have much going for it.





Discuss

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2 - 2014-07-28 06:24:31 UTC
Conclusion: Troll

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#3 - 2014-07-28 06:25:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Tennej
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Conclusion: Troll



Figured you would pop in here with some sort of smartass remark. You positively did not fail to disappoint. Noted.

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#4 - 2014-07-28 06:28:06 UTC
Not a very good troll, yeah.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#5 - 2014-07-28 06:29:17 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Not a very good troll, yeah.


Discuss topic please not troll this or troll that.

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
TharOkha
0asis Group
#6 - 2014-07-28 06:29:57 UTC  |  Edited by: TharOkha
This thread reminds me thinking of creationist christians.

Observation: i dont know how this happened

Conclusion: It was god

CODE. Venture hunt contest in a nutshell
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#7 - 2014-07-28 06:31:59 UTC
You aren't very good at trolling.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#8 - 2014-07-28 06:32:49 UTC
Tennej wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Conclusion: Troll



Figured you would pop in here with some sort of smartass remark. You positively did not fail to disappoint. Noted.


Well if you will make completely obviously slanted comments, then respond to people calling your BS with this what do you expect?

The first thing you said you "tested" (and thats giving you the benefit of the doubt and sayin you actually DID do it) is something that people who complain High Sec is nerfed are AGAINST.

Even by the standards of what you are trying to test, the first thing that you claim to have done would naturally have the opposite effect than the one you claim to be testing.

But dont worry, Im sure Tippia will be a long shortly to bite and have the pointless argument you so desperately crave.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#9 - 2014-07-28 06:34:14 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You aren't very good at trolling.


OK this has already been mentioned..... IDGAFF


Discuss the topic not Troll this or troll that.


I am seeking Hi-sec buffs.

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#10 - 2014-07-28 06:35:12 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Tennej wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Conclusion: Troll



Figured you would pop in here with some sort of smartass remark. You positively did not fail to disappoint. Noted.


Well if you will make completely obviously slanted comments, then respond to people calling your BS with this what do you expect?

The first thing you said you "tested" (and thats giving you the benefit of the doubt and sayin you actually DID do it) is something that people who complain High Sec is nerfed are AGAINST.

Even by the standards of what you are trying to test, the first thing that you claim to have done would naturally have the opposite effect than the one you claim to be testing.

But dont worry, Im sure Tippia will be a long shortly to bite and have the pointless argument you so desperately crave.


Buh bye

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#11 - 2014-07-28 06:35:37 UTC
Tennej wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You aren't very good at trolling.


OK this has already been mentioned..... IDGAFF


And it shows.

Up your game. I think we deserve better.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2014-07-28 06:35:53 UTC
All of these high sec nerfs also happened in every other area of space.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#13 - 2014-07-28 06:36:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
OP seems to think that "discuss"

Means blindly agree

Reported for trolling

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#14 - 2014-07-28 06:37:12 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Tennej wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You aren't very good at trolling.


OK this has already been mentioned..... IDGAFF


And it shows.

Up your game. I think we deserve better.


buh bye

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#15 - 2014-07-28 06:38:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Tennej
baltec1 wrote:
All of these high sec nerfs also happened in every other area of space.



Noted. So entire game got nerfed...... Even more reason for a New player to come off a trial account or move to pther parts of space.

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#16 - 2014-07-28 06:40:16 UTC
Tennej wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Tennej wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You aren't very good at trolling.


OK this has already been mentioned..... IDGAFF


And it shows.

Up your game. I think we deserve better.


buh bye


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toFm4CkDaUE

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#17 - 2014-07-28 06:40:56 UTC
Tennej wrote:

Attempt: I got a Harby.... lets go do some lvl 3 missions. The ship bounties arent great but its something to do and the salvage can net some good isk.

Result: Man these MTU's are a boon for salvaging. They pull everything in and I got a destroyer with 8 salvagers. Missions are easy with a Harbinger. Making a little bit of isk. After about 2 storylines I'm getting sleepy.

...

Kinda glad I didnt subscribe and still on a trial account. Game doesnt seem to have much going for it.
Discuss


Amarr Battlecruiser skill description:
Quote:
Skill at operating Amarr battlecruisers. Can not be trained on Trial Accounts.


Lol
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#18 - 2014-07-28 06:42:39 UTC
Note for trolls.


If I say buh bye, that means I no longer pay attention to you... so keep posting links that I wont click and whining that I wont read. If you want to talk about the topic of hi-sec buffs. I'm right there for you.

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#19 - 2014-07-28 06:44:07 UTC
Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:
Tennej wrote:

Attempt: I got a Harby.... lets go do some lvl 3 missions. The ship bounties arent great but its something to do and the salvage can net some good isk.

Result: Man these MTU's are a boon for salvaging. They pull everything in and I got a destroyer with 8 salvagers. Missions are easy with a Harbinger. Making a little bit of isk. After about 2 storylines I'm getting sleepy.

...

Kinda glad I didnt subscribe and still on a trial account. Game doesnt seem to have much going for it.
Discuss


Amarr Battlecruiser skill description:
Quote:
Skill at operating Amarr battlecruisers. Can not be trained on Trial Accounts.


Lol


Nice

Didn't catch that.

Laugh? You bet I did

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#20 - 2014-07-28 06:44:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Tennej
Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:
Tennej wrote:

Attempt: I got a Harby.... lets go do some lvl 3 missions. The ship bounties arent great but its something to do and the salvage can net some good isk.

Result: Man these MTU's are a boon for salvaging. They pull everything in and I got a destroyer with 8 salvagers. Missions are easy with a Harbinger. Making a little bit of isk. After about 2 storylines I'm getting sleepy.

...

Kinda glad I didnt subscribe and still on a trial account. Game doesnt seem to have much going for it.
Discuss


Amarr Battlecruiser skill description:
Quote:
Skill at operating Amarr battlecruisers. Can not be trained on Trial Accounts.


Lol



Ya this is a perm account and I didnt have a cruiser close. Lvl 3's with a BC was close enough and makes the same point. But thanks for pointing out the difference between a trial and a perm account.


Topic is Hi-sec buffs if any. Thats if anybody cares to discuss the topic......

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
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