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Skill to give a chance to recover unplugged implants
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kiemai
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2014-07-28 04:59:17 UTC  |  Edited by: kiemai
I had an idea for a skill to give a percentage chance to recover implants removed when unplugged. Starting at 0% at level zero and increasing 7.5% per level of skill trained was thinking it would be a rank 5 training time.

Thoughts?
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#2 - 2014-07-28 05:41:50 UTC
What happens if I unplug my implants while I'm sitting in a pod, in space?

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#3 - 2014-07-28 06:29:27 UTC
kiemai wrote:
I had an idea for a skill to give a percentage chance to recover implants removed when unplugged. Starting at 0% at level zero and increasing 7.5% per level of skill trained was thinking it would be a rank 5 training time.

Thoughts?


And guess what, others before you had the same idea.

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Anthar Thebess
#4 - 2014-07-28 08:02:47 UTC
No.
Implants are isk sink.

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Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-07-28 10:34:15 UTC
kiemai wrote:
I had an idea for a skill to give a percentage chance to recover implants removed when unplugged. Starting at 0% at level zero and increasing 7.5% per level of skill trained was thinking it would be a rank 5 training time.

Thoughts?


Do you even know what an implant is?

De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-07-28 13:20:29 UTC
I think part of the problem is that people have this idea that implants are like SD Cards - you just plug them into a slot in the back of your skull,a nd viola, human 2.0. In that respect, it makes sense that you should be able to unplug them.

However, that's really not what they are. Implants are (IIRC) surgically implanted (thus the name) and hardwired to your brain. Removing them would be like cutting out a part of your brain - sure, you can do it, but no one with any sense is really going to do that, the risks are too great.

I would say if you really want this, in addition to a percentage chance of getting the implant, you have a percentage chance to permanently damage that attribute by one point - and the two chances are unrelated. Meaning you could get no implant, and still lose the point.

This reflects the inherent risks involved in brain surgery.

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kiemai
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2014-07-28 13:55:17 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
I think part of the problem is that people have this idea that implants are like SD Cards - you just plug them into a slot in the back of your skull,a nd viola, human 2.0. In that respect, it makes sense that you should be able to unplug them.

However, that's really not what they are. Implants are (IIRC) surgically implanted (thus the name) and hardwired to your brain. Removing them would be like cutting out a part of your brain - sure, you can do it, but no one with any sense is really going to do that, the risks are too great.

I would say if you really want this, in addition to a percentage chance of getting the implant, you have a percentage chance to permanently damage that attribute by one point - and the two chances are unrelated. Meaning you could get no implant, and still lose the point.

This reflects the inherent risks involved in brain surgery.



That sounds like a very good idea, as for Swiftstrike's post it would have to be in stations due to the facilities needed for the operation to remove the implant.
Joraa Starkmanir
Station Spinners United
#8 - 2014-07-28 14:30:10 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:

However, that's really not what they are. Implants are (IIRC) surgically implanted (thus the name) and hardwired to your brain. Removing them would be like cutting out a part of your brain - sure, you can do it, but no one with any sense is really going to do that, the risks are too great.


Exept you can already unplugg implants with no brain dmg (in space if you like), so there is no problem with pilots ability to do brain surgery on the fly :P

As a counter, i suggest a chance to get implant parts (those thats used in craftable implants). This would mean that most (bought from LP) are still an isk sink, and it would open up for more player made implants in the future due to more supply of materials
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2014-07-28 14:39:56 UTC
RNG based game mechanics are bad mkay?

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De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-07-28 15:32:48 UTC
Joraa Starkmanir wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:

However, that's really not what they are. Implants are (IIRC) surgically implanted (thus the name) and hardwired to your brain. Removing them would be like cutting out a part of your brain - sure, you can do it, but no one with any sense is really going to do that, the risks are too great.


Exept you can already unplugg implants with no brain dmg (in space if you like), so there is no problem with pilots ability to do brain surgery on the fly :P

As a counter, i suggest a chance to get implant parts (those thats used in craftable implants). This would mean that most (bought from LP) are still an isk sink, and it would open up for more player made implants in the future due to more supply of materials


I could probably get behind this idea, but I still think it should have some significant drawbacks

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Smugest Sniper
neko island
Deedspace Consortium
#11 - 2014-07-28 16:20:16 UTC
Rather than unplugging them for yourself, Let use reprocess corpses for a shot at their implants.
Altirius Saldiaro
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-07-28 16:34:13 UTC
I want to salvage implants from corpses. There's isk in them there corpses.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-07-28 17:44:03 UTC
+1 for corpse salvaging!

Would also solve OP's problem: self-destruct pod, try to salvage your own corpse. Bonus creepy points, too!

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