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Yokai Mitsuhide
Doomheim
#21 - 2014-07-26 01:31:29 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:

MORE American "English" is a good thing,



Fixed that for you.
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#22 - 2014-07-26 01:43:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Ssabat Thraxx
Lors Dornick wrote:
Most producers of software or text, outside of UK, prefer to use the pidgin version of English known as American for the simple reason that there are more of those ugly -------- than of any other kind that has some form of English as first language.



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Also, the Royal Family are shape-shifting lizard ppl from the lower 4th dimension. I read about it.

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Serene Repose
#23 - 2014-07-26 07:29:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
If no one's pointed this out great. If someone has...oops.

RoF, rate of fire, is quite actively used by "Americans". Though, I have to say a lot of America says "rapidez del tiro." (I'm sure those weren't the "Americans" to whom you referred.)

After this remark of yours I'm going to be monitoring your posts quite closely, OP. If you use this ridiculous subject/verb disagreement form that's all the rage (England are) you will certainly be hearing from ME. (I can tell you THAT!) Nyah.

Like this ridiculous post above me...The royal family ARE...family is SINGULAR. There is ONE English royal family. There are MANY "members" of this royal family. The members of the royal family ARE. The royal family IS.

AAARGH!!! Stop killing your language!

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2014-07-26 08:07:49 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Rate of fire is not the proper term because damage modules and the like apply a reductive effect to it. Reducing rate of fire would mean that your weapon fires more slowly (at a lower rate) but in EVE this means that the period or duration between shots is reduced. The rate of fire, or the frequency, is increased.

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2014-07-26 10:39:13 UTC
Presumably they are meant to reduce the cycle time of the weapon which increases the cyclic rate/ROF
Yossarian Toralen
M and M Enterpises
#26 - 2014-07-26 12:13:27 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Rate of fire is not the proper term because damage modules and the like apply a reductive effect to it. Reducing rate of fire would mean that your weapon fires more slowly (at a lower rate) but in EVE this means that the period or duration between shots is reduced. The rate of fire, or the frequency, is increased.


I can't find any weapon upgrades, rigs or any text that says reduces the rate of fire when they mean increase (I haven't seen it but it could be there).

To the OP, what do we English speakers use in place of rate of fire?

Firing speed would more likely be confused with muzzle velocity wouldn't it?
AngelFood
#27 - 2014-07-27 06:47:04 UTC
wtf!
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
#28 - 2014-07-27 17:22:44 UTC
Dis thread r full of gud timez.

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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
#29 - 2014-07-27 17:30:37 UTC
Iceland has strong connections with North America I believe due to the Americans assisting with one of the volcanic disasters there. So this probably explains the use of American spelling such as omitting the letter U etc from words.

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#30 - 2014-07-27 17:35:40 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
This thread is worth having

Do you get confused between Ice Cream and Frozen Yogurt?


And here I thought you were more of a gelatto kind of gal. ;P

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RoAnnon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2014-07-27 17:36:15 UTC
Rate of Fire : Frequency
What EVE measures weapons by : wavelength

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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#32 - 2014-07-27 23:03:27 UTC
AngelFood wrote:
When Icelanders were the only people involved in designing and running eve they could use proper english, so why now do we have to resort to bizarre language alternatives?

Surely it's best for everyone including people who are learning english or just not very good at it to use proper english and the proper terms, like 'rate of fire' which apparently contrary to american thought is perfectly self explanatory and has been used in many ways in the real world with no need for some alternate phrase like firing speed!

This is obviously just one of many phrase changes that have been happening in eve like the latest 'Time efficiency', which I suppose is a more debatably reasonable change but unnecessary in my mind.

Perhaps this is just what comes from hiring random players from the game who seem to be good at taking in information and spewing it out again.


It's dumbing down for pegi 12. I hate pegi 12 in eve, frozen corpses used to be naked.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2014-07-27 23:13:38 UTC
RoAnnon wrote:
Rate of Fire : Frequency
What EVE measures weapons by : wavelength



Surprising that is actually relevant in WWII flight sims :D

Slow firing large cannon on WWII planes (such as the nose cannon in the P39) had such a long "wavelength" your target could actually slip between the shells when defection shooting.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2014-07-27 23:41:34 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
If no one's pointed this out great. If someone has...oops.

RoF, rate of fire, is quite actively used by "Americans". Though, I have to say a lot of America says "rapidez del tiro." (I'm sure those weren't the "Americans" to whom you referred.)

After this remark of yours I'm going to be monitoring your posts quite closely, OP. If you use this ridiculous subject/verb disagreement form that's all the rage (England are) you will certainly be hearing from ME. (I can tell you THAT!) Nyah.

Like this ridiculous post above me...The royal family ARE...family is SINGULAR. There is ONE English royal family. There are MANY "members" of this royal family. The members of the royal family ARE. The royal family IS.

AAARGH!!! Stop killing your language!

American English, when we refer to family, we refer to the plurality of members, not the entity itself. After all, the Royal Family CAN NOT be multiple lizard people from the lower 4th dimension, it is both a single entity and a nonphysical one.

We Americans simply choose to drop out the "members of the" pretext because over here most services you pay by character, so it literally pays to cut out as much writing as possible.
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#35 - 2014-07-28 00:21:32 UTC
^^^^^ this, ty.

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Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#36 - 2014-07-28 00:33:41 UTC
AngelFood wrote:
When Icelanders were the only people involved in designing and running eve


You're wrong. You just sit there being wrong.

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Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2014-07-28 01:15:00 UTC
I can't begin to imagine how anyone can play a game for so long and get so ticked off by things like 'proper english.' It's like someone going through the drive thru of a restaurant and yelling into the speaker that they shouldn't be allowed to sell anything if they spell burger wrong. Roll
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2014-07-28 01:22:04 UTC
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:
I can't begin to imagine how anyone can play a game for so long and get so ticked off by things like 'proper english.' It's like someone going through the drive thru of a restaurant and yelling into the speaker that they shouldn't be allowed to sell anything if they spell burger wrong. Roll



Must admit its a bit ironic in a space game set in the distant future in another galaxy.

If it was "Downton Abbey the Edwardian Society Sim" maybe ....
Hiply Rustic
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2014-07-28 01:29:26 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
RoAnnon wrote:
Rate of Fire : Frequency
What EVE measures weapons by : wavelength



Surprising that is actually relevant in WWII flight sims :D

Slow firing large cannon on WWII planes (such as the nose cannon in the P39) had such a long "wavelength" your target could actually slip between the shells when defection shooting.


The practice of shooting defectors with fighter planes never really took off.

Ralph King-Griffin wrote: "Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and the weak willied." EvE: Only the strong-willied need apply.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2014-07-28 01:33:04 UTC
Hiply Rustic wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
RoAnnon wrote:
Rate of Fire : Frequency
What EVE measures weapons by : wavelength



Surprising that is actually relevant in WWII flight sims :D

Slow firing large cannon on WWII planes (such as the nose cannon in the P39) had such a long "wavelength" your target could actually slip between the shells when defection shooting.


The practice of shooting defectors with fighter planes never really took off.


For that matter neither did a lot of the crazy late war designs, some exploded on the runway though.
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