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Fumungus Skywalker
The Newborn Guardians of Space
#1 - 2014-07-27 11:45:21 UTC
Hi.

I have question about T3 Cruisers.

Wich one is the best for wh?.

And also if u can tell me what are each one good at will be nice.

I tried to search topic on searcher and no matches. Also i try to found and only found information from 2013 or older.

Thanks all ;)
Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-07-27 11:48:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Tao Dolcino
There you can simulate your own T3 cruiser, with the numbers and all. It'll help you to understand better their possibilities while playing with the modules :
http://www.ellatha.com/eve/T3.asp
Amber Patoria
Division 13
#3 - 2014-07-27 12:19:59 UTC
There are quite a few discussion topics around regarding T3s and "what is the best". There is no simple answer, as uses and fits vary considerably.

Generally though the consensus between most players is Proteus for PVP, Tengu for PVE.

Although there are fits and flying styles that will make any T3 viable in either role tbh.

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loĸι
Forest Archer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-07-27 12:21:00 UTC
Tengu - Caldari
Loki - Minmitar
legion - Amarr
Proteus - Gallante

As to whs it depends on what you are doing, your fit, and the wh. Feel free to elaborate for us and we'll help you.

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Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#5 - 2014-07-27 12:24:46 UTC
That's a very open question. So the answer is that depends.

It depends on if its solo or as a group.

It depends on what class of wormhole.

It depends on what fit you use on the T3 and as there are alot of different configurations of a T3.

If I was doing low class wormholes solo I'd consider a Tengu, they are still very good at all things PVE. If in a group a Loki with the subsystem that increases web range is very useful, especially if doing higher class sites with Capital ships.

I've never really used the Legion or Proteus but I'd guess they are also used in wormholes, in fleets designed to take advantage of certain subsystems that they use.

Also download a program called EFT it enables you to play around with ship fittings out of game.

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Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#6 - 2014-07-27 12:25:25 UTC
If you wanna run sites in c3 then tengu or legion are the best.
c1-2 legion is the best

But in PvP they all have their roles, tengu less so for pvp but it can still be a powerful small gang ship.
Samuel Caldara
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-07-27 12:53:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Samuel Caldara
Tengu - Good missioner, and the only proper shield t3 that can actually fight. In a pulsar these become godly (think 300k EHP). Pitiful cloaky ganker, not a bad cloaky scout, ECM boat, or cloaky heavy tackle.

Legion - Second best at running c3's, can run a beast of a neutralizing boat. Probably 2nd in terms of broad utilization behind tengu. Wolf-Rayet hole makes these godly.

Loki - Webs like a beast (think 40k webs), can do everything else but not very well.

Proteus - Hands down the best cloaky ganker, or just ganker in general. With blasters it can do an insane amount of DPS. Can also run C3's, though not particularly well.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-07-27 14:16:20 UTC
It depends on your fit but ALSO on the wormhole you live in.

If you have a WH that boosts armor stats due to the WH anomaly, it makes NO sense to fly shield ships there.

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Fumungus Skywalker
The Newborn Guardians of Space
#9 - 2014-07-27 17:06:00 UTC

I know, is not a best. I just wanted to know wich one was best in theory in each case.

U solved my question.

Thank u very much.
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-07-27 19:30:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Cara Forelli
For PVE, I can't help you very much. Each t3 has a very common "special" use in PVP WH fleets though:

Proteus - DPS
Legion - Neuts
Loki - Webs
Tengu - ECM

This isn't to say you can't fit the other 3 for dps, but the Proteus has the raw numbers advantage. Many WH corps will accept DPS t3s of any sort, as the main reason t3s are so popular is their low mass, low sig, and good resists. However, the support roles are very important in any fleet involving logistics or capital ships so don't underestimate their value. You can really get along with skills in any t3, at least long enough to train for one that better suits your purpose should you change your mind.

J'Poll wrote:
It depends on your fit but ALSO on the wormhole you live in.

If you have a WH that boosts armor stats due to the WH anomaly, it makes NO sense to fly shield ships there.

While this is true, it depends how you pick your fights. Some corps live in a pulsar but primarily fly armor fleets because the majority of their fights happen outside their home system.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-07-27 19:51:02 UTC
Cara Forelli wrote:


J'Poll wrote:
It depends on your fit but ALSO on the wormhole you live in.

If you have a WH that boosts armor stats due to the WH anomaly, it makes NO sense to fly shield ships there.

While this is true, it depends how you pick your fights. Some corps live in a pulsar but primarily fly armor fleets because the majority of their fights happen outside their home system.


That's of course true.

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#12 - 2014-07-27 21:03:41 UTC
You searched info about what each T3 is good at and no matches, seriously? Where did you search it on. lazyass.com?

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Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-07-28 07:51:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Kitty Bear
As already mentioned, get the wormhole first
then get the T3 cruiser

whilst your looking for the wormhole
train some relevant skills that will apply to any T3 (and any other ship as well)

Skills to train first
Mechanics V
CPU Management V
Power Grid Management V
Navigation V

Skills to train when you know which cruiser you need
Shield Operation
Missile Launcher Operation
Gunnery
Drones
[racial] Cruiser V
Silver Dagger Kondur
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2014-07-30 20:48:58 UTC
Nice summary of T3s.
Thanks for posting those!