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Would this help with suicide gankings?
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Zinther Del'Ara
Crysonian
#1 - 2014-07-27 08:30:43 UTC
Have and icon on the portrait in local showing if the person has a publicly purchasable kill-right? Like the suspect flag.

Thoughts?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#2 - 2014-07-27 08:34:27 UTC
Aren't most of them neg five or higher anyway?

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Zinther Del'Ara
Crysonian
#3 - 2014-07-27 08:37:26 UTC
A lot, yes. But I think it could be a little boost for bounty hunters and pvp'ers. Plus make life harder for the occasional misfit.

It's not about making empire safer, but a little more interesting Pirate
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2014-07-27 08:48:59 UTC
Zinther Del'Ara wrote:
It's not about making empire safer, but a little more interesting Pirate

So, remove all tags (including things like criminal flags) from the local list?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#5 - 2014-07-27 09:02:57 UTC
How would this help with suicide gankings?

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-07-27 09:04:16 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
How would this help with suicide gankings?


It won't.

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Tajic Kaundur
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#7 - 2014-07-27 09:05:27 UTC
Or just, y'know, turn this on in your overview.

Doesn't help with local chat, but why do you care if someone is in system but docked and AFK?
Zinther Del'Ara
Crysonian
#8 - 2014-07-27 09:12:52 UTC
Tajic Kaundur wrote:
Or just, y'know, turn this on in your overview.

Doesn't help with local chat, but why do you care if someone is in system but docked and AFK?


Someone might buy it and wait at station? Carebear sees criminal in local and tries his luck? Bountyhunting profession getting a boost?

If someone had tradeable killrights on my main, I'd be paranoid. It's reverse griefing ;)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#9 - 2014-07-27 09:40:41 UTC
Zinther Del'Ara wrote:
Carebear sees criminal in local and tries his luck?

They will turn into a killmail most likely.

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Zinther Del'Ara
Crysonian
#10 - 2014-07-27 09:53:50 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Zinther Del'Ara wrote:
Carebear sees criminal in local and tries his luck?

They will turn into a killmail most likely.


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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#11 - 2014-07-27 10:09:05 UTC
Um, pretty sure that already exists.

Oh god.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#12 - 2014-07-27 10:12:06 UTC
Doesn't that overview whatsit only turn on when you get on grid with the person? I never understood why it doesn't just show up in local remotely.

And no, it would make ganking harder not easier.

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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#13 - 2014-07-27 10:50:04 UTC
I think you and I have very different definitions for "help."

Who put the goat in there?
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#14 - 2014-07-27 10:54:02 UTC
Zappity wrote:
Doesn't that overview whatsit only turn on when you get on grid with the person?

Yeah, it doesn't appear in local, only on the overview.

Oh god.
Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#15 - 2014-07-27 11:02:37 UTC
Yeah no, would not.

It would also not help if we had the ability to sort by sec.

Well, it might help those who actually look,
but these people will most like already know who to look for anyway.


The rest ... doesn't look.


When a victim isn't looking, the biggest and brightest "MORON GTFO!" on screen won't save him. (:

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Dave Stark
#16 - 2014-07-27 11:29:52 UTC
it'd make it easier to abuse absurdly expensive public killrights set by my alt in order to make me rich, i approve of this.
Aurora Tali
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-07-27 11:30:38 UTC
a 25% Fine if you Gank in Highsec would help .... no one would ever Gank again
Dave Stark
#18 - 2014-07-27 12:01:08 UTC
Aurora Tali wrote:
a 25% Fine if you Gank in Highsec would help .... no one would ever Gank again

they probably said the same when they removed insurance from gankers.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#19 - 2014-07-27 13:37:52 UTC
Aurora Tali wrote:
a 25% Fine if you Gank in Highsec would help .... no one would ever Gank again

Nothing is stopping you from placing a 25% fine on gankers.

Oh god.
Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2014-07-27 14:16:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Mayhaw Morgan
Zinther Del'Ara wrote:
Have and icon on the portrait in local showing if the person has a publicly purchasable kill-right? Like the suspect flag.

Thoughts?


Here's my thought: It would help if people actually turned the feature on and used it.
If you go through your overview settings, you will find a toggle to have people with killrights show up in your overview. I believe that toggling it on also causes them to show up in local or there must be something else to turn on, because they also appear in my local list. The one HUGE catch is that you have to select their ship in space or on overview before it works (unlike things like standings or security status).

Does the feature help with suicide ganking? I think it does. I have managed to locate and destroy numerous ships using it and I am pretty sure that my incessant usage of said feature has lead some people to resort to docking up when I enter local. So, they can't gank when they are in a capsule or docked.

The real question that I think you should ask yourself is why CCP should "help with suicide ganking" and how much "help" you think they should render. And, how much "help" do you think we, as players should render? It's our problem, after all, not CCP's.
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