EVE General Discussion

The energy death of the universe is an accepted fact, so ultimately everything and everyone is doomed.

Looked at the vid.. Not my cup of tea, I don't play eve for a Babylon 5/EVE/FPS mishmash thank you.

The is no game will ever threaten the core player base that Eve has.

However what these other games can do is take away those players who do not get involved in the large scale fleet battles, that do not enjoy being ganked, that do not really enjoy the PvP side of Eve but are only here because there are no other MMO Space Sims.

They enjoy the manufacturing, the exploration side of things.

It has always been my argument that games like SC could have effect on the Eve as these kind of people could leave Eve and people who are looking for a space sim who will would otherwise come here will now go to games such as SC.

Of course there will people who will say great let them leave, we do not want people like there here, these kind of people I like to call idiots.

With every player who unsubs that is less income for CCP which means less money being available to be spent on Eve.

So whilst I believe there will never be a Eve Killer as such, each game of these games do have the potential to very slowly chip away at Eve player base and before you know it subs are down and the game as a whole suffers.

Yup... Eve Online is doomed... not because of the game OP is going on about... but because of the upcoming Firefly game that is being developed! Eve is too far entrenched for some new upstart to really bugger with it too much. May lose a few subscribers because of a game, but not enough to hurt it.

The thing that can doom EVE is though is CCP themselves messing with the game so much that people find it disheartening, so they go seek something else. Or CCP not doing stuff to keep EVE exciting to the players. I think the only thing that can kill EVE is CCP themselves.

A few subscribers here, a few subscribers there, not enough to do any real damage in the short term but when you add up all those lost subscribers over a long period of time it adds up and all of sudden your in dangerous territory.


The drip effect is the most dangerous as you don't see it coming until its too late.

Everyone is doomed you just failed to realize that, yet.

Once the Great Old Ones awaken you can only hope your soul is the first one to be devoured so you won't have to witness the horrors they inflict upon mankind.

Elite Dangerous players need to come up with another acronym to use. Every time I see "ED", I think "Erectile Dysfunction?" or "THE FAMOUS MR. ED!", or Ed, Edd, and Eddie!

Anyway, I agree with Prince Kobol and ILB. I think that EvE could be hurt by ED but it won't kill EvE. CCP are really the only ones that can do that, and even then they'd have to try pretty hard.

As a parallel, look at Ultima Online. How many direct competitors have been released since that game started? It's still going, and people are still paying subscriptions and playing afaik. EQ1, EQ2, SWG, WOW, just to name a few. EvE will be the same way.

EVE is a mistress u can never leave.she always drags you back into new eden kicking and screaming. So EVE is never going to die unless CCP make some really bad choices.

The only issue i have these days is finding the time and energy to play, i have had many a month just doing skills and playing other games. i blame lack of will power and damn steam sales.

I think the only issue i find with EVE and CCP is the fact they want to make eve the totally inclusive SCI FI MMORPG. I.E Walking on stations/planets/exploration/stargates/comets. But they are struggling to actually make that happen or the lead time is so long it usually gets canned or put off for later. or the player base rage quits and has a tantrum and they change their focus.
Or they just make seperate games for these things. Kinda not the all inclusive SCI Fi MMO but never mind

Their is a genuine risk i think of the playerbase shrinking because look at what you are able to do in star citizen/elite/firefly online. Land on planets, walk/fight in stations/ships & more. It all depends on the player if they prefer clicking in space and pressing f1/2/3/4 to fight or dog fighting/exploring with a joystick. I love eve + the X-series, so i enjoy both game styles.


Lost my point but still i don't see eve dying but just struggling to keep up.

Two replies, first to you:

CCP always wanted an imersivie vast sci-fi game. They had huge plans, but got sidetracked by a good rule in business, never keep your eggs in one basket. CCP took money out of eve and put it into WoD. Then they got it in their heads that if they added lots of microtransactions, and made eve more P2W they would get more money! but the player base smacked them in the head and reminded them we are here. CCP then shifted gears and started fixing eve... but then they still wanted eggs in othe baskets, so again shifted money to WoD, and got another brilliant idea to expand eve, but did it wrong. They spent money on Dust, and it never reached its potential, for whatever reason. CCP has again changed course, and might be realizing that's its greatest strength at this time, is the EVE IP on pc. What I am fairly sure is going to happen, Valk, Legion will launch with very little eve interaction, but this will give ccp a money boost to finish 'fixing eve' and hopefully unifiy it all together, with the 4th game (yes I know, speculation based on ccp presents, sue me) but we will see.

To the OP: Elite and SC, like everyother game before it that was going to kill eve, will do one of two things:

1) either drain some subs for a while, till players get bored of the new shiney and come back home to eve. (sometimes it takea a while, but eventually everyone who leaves eves checks on it and comes back)

or

2) Flops.

No one game will kill eve. Some will drain subs, but people will return after the new game gets tired, or they get bored, or ccp launches something that gets them excited. It happens all the time. But I will say this, competition is good. Even one that might flop, hype might light a fire under CCP's ass, and they might finally get eve to where they always wanted it, one of the greatest games ever made. Or they could **** it up and we will all crash and burn. *shrugs*

to achieve that these games (elite and SC at least) use instancing so if a hundred players dock at the same station or warp to the same location they don't see a hundred players like in eve. they're all off on parallel grids unable to interact. that's fundamentally the difference between eve and these other space games. eve may struggle with large fleet warfare sometimes but it is at least possible to do that and all the complex social interaction you get in a single instanced, high latency game. i doubt elite will manage any social grouping more upscale than clans but then they're perfectly suited to that kind of game.