Science & Industry

A piece of advice, really.

Small tower, any type, whichever has the cheapest fuel blocks.

Compression array.

Fuel blocks, charters (depend on which empire area you are anchoring).

Nothing else is needed. You can toss up some defensive modules if you think you want to defend the tower, but the smart way is to just pull it down if a wardec appears and keep it offline when not compressing. If you fear that someone suicide ganks the compression array, unanchor it between uses and store it in a station.

Ore is stockpiled in a station and freightered in, dropped into array, click, compressed, freightered to market.

I think you might need to clarify what you mean on "without additional costs." You'll have to buy the small tower, and the array, and at least a bit of fuel, but seeing as refining is instant now you can do all your refining with only burning 1 hour of fuel. I'm not sure what you mean about trying to avoid additional costs, what costs are you referring too?

Ice product supply isn't just driven driven by the availability of resources, it's driven by the amount of work done by miners to harvest said ice products too. Unless there's suddenly an upswing in ice mining, demand for ice products will be going up relative to the current supply of ice products.

I agree re: low-end minerals. I expect the compressed ore market to take off in hisec as well. I think a smart miner will get into both.

The only thing that bothers me about all of this is the fact that I grinded so many missions for so many different npc corps just so I could refine in their stations at no cost. This resulted in me being able to make BILLIONS at a time because I lost no ore, and my only costs were buying/shipping, and I grinded so many missions that I had access to almost every station in one specific Region.

With that being said, this is the nice thing about Eve. They're looking to improve all the time, the gameplay, and not punish players but what this update brings is me having to take an extra step out of my shell, getting a POS, compressing ore, and making a living that way. It brings me further into Eve, more experience, etc., and for this I truly can't be upset.

I've never had a POS, have no idea how to truly go about it, but it seems as though it won't be that difficult.

Long story short I appreciated this thread and reading what everyone had to say, it was good advice from everyone and great links as well. I'll hopefully be set up in a week or so with the POS and buying ore to compress, so if anyone needs large quantities of compressed ore just let me know in game and maybe I can work something out with you. Thanks everyone, great thread!

Ram

Oh god it's so true! I personally have no reason or need to have a POS and suddenly I have one. Most difficult was to find a free moon but with 0.8 - 1.0 opened up now and removal of standings requirement the pool is much larger now. I just took a left turn from a pipe between 2 regions (or constellations or whatever it is that Dotlan shows as smallest map unit above system) and voila! half of moons empty and rest with mostly only anchored but offlined towers.

And trust me, setting up tower + few structures is easy, if I could do it anybody can. Just remember to put those frakking charters into fuel bay along with fuel blocks because my god that was a real WTF moment for me (for some reason I assumed charters are consumed only when I online tower and it's enough to have them in my cargo, kind of as token to special rooms in some missions). But now I know so Eve, you didn't break me and I will keep being terrible. Haha! (obligatory link to youtube clip of Nelson from Simpsons).