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Why do players hate others for Auto piloting?
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Petre en Thielles
Doomheim
#141 - 2014-07-23 14:13:15 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Petre en Thielles wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Petre en Thielles wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Next people will come up with is how they watched a movie afk,
while actually being in the kitchen ... not seeing it.


I have done that. I have also had a movie playing on my laptop (closed) in the car and listened to it while on long trips.

"EvE, where any playstyle is OK, as long as it conforms to CODE scamming"


People target AFK-ers and high sec miners because it is the easiest way to claim they 'PvP' without actually taking any risk. It is another form of carebear.

I was there long before CODE,
saying the same things as CODE,
without the douche baggery.

If you AP you die, because you willfully ignore your environment.

You are simple minded.


I personally never use AP (but then again, I lived in high sec for less than a month in my EvE career), but that doesn't change the fact that ganking AFKers and miners is what people do when they want to feel like they PvP without actually taking any risk.

It is by far the easiest/most boring thing to do in the game. No one who enjoys a challenge bothers ganking in high sec.
You certainly haven't seen Mew.

Who cares about all these lesser wannabe tough guys anyway.

Come to Hek, I'll kick your candy ass you inexperienced wannabe.


(when logged in and not busy, which happens too often -.-)


Come out to w-space we can have a real fight. If you can stand to risk leaving carebearland.

And again, a 'fight' is attacking someone who can defend themselves. Exactly my point on how easy going after high sec miners and AFKers is.
Solecist Project
#142 - 2014-07-23 14:46:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Simple minded coward who puts everyone of a group into the same box wrote:


Come out to w-space we can have a real fight. If you can stand to risk leaving carebearland.

And again, a 'fight' is attacking someone who can defend themselves. Exactly my point on how easy going after high sec miners and AFKers is.

blablabla.
Hiding behind words.


You risked a big lip, I invite you to get your ass kicked.

Now come or shut up already, you coward.

You are just one gigantic *******.

In your mind, all black people are drug dealers and all jews are rich too, hu?
All the people from poland are thiefs, all germans are Nazis,
all russians drink vodka.

Sick freak ... come and get your ass kicked, bigmouth

You certainly find me easier than the other way round, so be my guest!


When you run a big lip, you should back it up too!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#143 - 2014-07-23 14:50:36 UTC
Petre en Thielles wrote:


It is by far the easiest/most boring thing to do in the game. .


That's mining you are thinking of

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Solecist Project
#144 - 2014-07-23 14:51:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
And I just realized.


COWARD HIDING IN NPC CORP!
A forum alt!

OMG SO TOUGH AND BRAVE! WOW!


And blocked. Stupid cowards.

Can't block. Wanna read what the coward writes.
Far more entertaining to see grown up people hide behind forum alts.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Akashi Suenobu
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#145 - 2014-07-23 14:59:37 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Tippia wrote:
LazyDeer wrote:
I can understand those who gank to get isk and for fun just to kill, but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around because they want play on the main will flying from point A to point B automatically? One of my alts was killed today in a shuttle and I got a mail saying I shouldn't autopilot and how butt hurt I should be because he killed my shuttle not my pod or anything else but my shuttle in a thrasher. So what is the problem with it? It is a feature the game allows so why are players so butt hurt when they see other players using it to fly around?

Where in any of that was hate against autopiloting expressed? It rather sounds like you're projecting a fair amount here.

No-one hates others for autopiloting. At most, some get annoyed when people who get killed while autopiloting come to the forum and complain and start demanding that their non-playing be made more safe.


You mean like afk cloakling? That type of non-playing??

Always amazing how people can and will justify their hypocricy when it benefits them.

Get use to it OP you will see it alot.



You're not making sense. he said that "people get annoyed get killed while autopiloting and come to the forum and complain and start demanding that their non-playing be made more safe." Nobody comes to the forum asking for afk cloaking to be made more safe. Because it's already quite safe. The people who are complaining about it in both cases are the people who are not doing it. That's not hypocrisy.
Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
#146 - 2014-07-23 15:11:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Anne Dieu-le-veut
I never autopilot. Occasionally, I autodock, but If I'm in a busy system, I warp to instadock/warp to zero if I don't have an insta in that system and manually dock.

E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Tippia wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
It's NOT a play style? ...WUT?? Are you in fact disagreeing with tippia? I hope not for your sake

In what way would he be disagreeing with me?

The way where you are quoted as saying auto piloting was non-playing. Just like afk cloaking in non-playing. To use your own analogy.


I don't often AFK in space, but when I do, I'm cloaked. If you can find my cloaked ship while I'm AFK, feel free to blow it up. I won't make a thread crying about it.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#147 - 2014-07-23 15:41:09 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
The way where you are quoted as saying auto piloting was non-playing. Just like afk cloaking in non-playing. To use your own analogy.

…and the supposed disagreement was…?
Petre en Thielles
Doomheim
#148 - 2014-07-23 19:02:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Petre en Thielles
duplicate post
Petre en Thielles
Doomheim
#149 - 2014-07-23 19:04:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Petre en Thielles
Solecist Project wrote:
Simple minded coward who puts everyone of a group into the same box wrote:


Come out to w-space we can have a real fight. If you can stand to risk leaving carebearland.

And again, a 'fight' is attacking someone who can defend themselves. Exactly my point on how easy going after high sec miners and AFKers is.

blablabla.
Hiding behind words.


You risked a big lip, I invite you to get your ass kicked.

Now come or shut up already, you coward.

You are just one gigantic *******.

In your mind, all black people are drug dealers and all jews are rich too, hu?
All the people from poland are thiefs, all germans are *****,
all russians drink vodka.

Sick freak ... come and get your ass kicked, bigmouth

You certainly find me easier than the other way round, so be my guest!


When you run a big lip, you should back it up too!


Well, that escalated quickly. Lay off the caffeine champ. And I spent some time in Hek. Then not being able to as much as bubble got boring pretty quickly.

Solecist Project wrote:
And I just realized.


COWARD HIDING IN NPC CORP!
A forum alt!

OMG SO TOUGH AND BRAVE! WOW!


And blocked. Stupid cowards.

Can't block. Wanna read what the coward writes.
Far more entertaining to see grown up people hide behind forum alts.


And yes, I absolutely never post in forums with anything other than a forum alt. If you don't understand why, then you must be more than oblivious to the political nature of EvE.

Or I could be like you, **** people off in an innocent forum conversation and bring bad karma on your corp. as a result. Great plan...

I will hide who I really am every chance I get. Right now I know who your are, who your corp is and what general area you do business in. You know absolutely nothing about me. What possible reason would I have for posting with a real character?
Akashi Suenobu
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#150 - 2014-07-23 19:26:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Akashi Suenobu
Petre en Thielles wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Simple minded coward who puts everyone of a group into the same box wrote:


Come out to w-space we can have a real fight. If you can stand to risk leaving carebearland.

And again, a 'fight' is attacking someone who can defend themselves. Exactly my point on how easy going after high sec miners and AFKers is.

blablabla.
Hiding behind words.


You risked a big lip, I invite you to get your ass kicked.

Now come or shut up already, you coward.

You are just one gigantic *******.

In your mind, all black people are drug dealers and all jews are rich too, hu?
All the people from poland are thiefs, all germans are *****,
all russians drink vodka.

Sick freak ... come and get your ass kicked, bigmouth

You certainly find me easier than the other way round, so be my guest!


When you run a big lip, you should back it up too!


Well, that escalated quickly. Lay off the caffeine champ. And I spent some time in Hek. Then not being able to as much as bubble got boring pretty quickly.

Solecist Project wrote:
And I just realized.


COWARD HIDING IN NPC CORP!
A forum alt!

OMG SO TOUGH AND BRAVE! WOW!


And blocked. Stupid cowards.

Can't block. Wanna read what the coward writes.
Far more entertaining to see grown up people hide behind forum alts.


And yes, I absolutely never post in forums with anything other than a forum alt. If you don't understand why, then you must be more than oblivious to the political nature of EvE.

Or I could be like you, **** people off in an innocent forum conversation and bring bad karma on your corp. as a result. Great plan...

I will hide who I really am every chance I get. Right now I know who your are, who your corp is and what general area you do business in. You know absolutely nothing about me. What possible reason would I have for posting with a real character?



The problem is, people don't believe you when you talk **** and tell people you can give them a "real fight" in a wh, because you can't prove you actually have any pvp experience at all without outing yourself.

Also, and this is more of a general question for the mods:
"In your mind, all black people are drug dealers and all jews are rich too, hu?
All the people from poland are thiefs, all germans are *****"

Can we not say "Nazis" here?

edit: holy crap, we can't say the word for WWII fascist german political party members, it gets auto corrected. That seems silly.
Petre en Thielles
Doomheim
#151 - 2014-07-25 13:35:57 UTC
Akashi Suenobu wrote:
Petre en Thielles wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Simple minded coward who puts everyone of a group into the same box wrote:


Come out to w-space we can have a real fight. If you can stand to risk leaving carebearland.

And again, a 'fight' is attacking someone who can defend themselves. Exactly my point on how easy going after high sec miners and AFKers is.

blablabla.
Hiding behind words.


You risked a big lip, I invite you to get your ass kicked.

Now come or shut up already, you coward.

You are just one gigantic *******.

In your mind, all black people are drug dealers and all jews are rich too, hu?
All the people from poland are thiefs, all germans are *****,
all russians drink vodka.

Sick freak ... come and get your ass kicked, bigmouth

You certainly find me easier than the other way round, so be my guest!


When you run a big lip, you should back it up too!


Well, that escalated quickly. Lay off the caffeine champ. And I spent some time in Hek. Then not being able to as much as bubble got boring pretty quickly.

Solecist Project wrote:
And I just realized.


COWARD HIDING IN NPC CORP!
A forum alt!

OMG SO TOUGH AND BRAVE! WOW!


And blocked. Stupid cowards.

Can't block. Wanna read what the coward writes.
Far more entertaining to see grown up people hide behind forum alts.


And yes, I absolutely never post in forums with anything other than a forum alt. If you don't understand why, then you must be more than oblivious to the political nature of EvE.

Or I could be like you, **** people off in an innocent forum conversation and bring bad karma on your corp. as a result. Great plan...

I will hide who I really am every chance I get. Right now I know who your are, who your corp is and what general area you do business in. You know absolutely nothing about me. What possible reason would I have for posting with a real character?



The problem is, people don't believe you when you talk **** and tell people you can give them a "real fight" in a wh, because you can't prove you actually have any pvp experience at all without outing yourself.

Also, and this is more of a general question for the mods:
"In your mind, all black people are drug dealers and all jews are rich too, hu?
All the people from poland are thiefs, all germans are *****"

Can we not say "*****" here?

edit: holy crap, we can't say the word for WWII fascist german political party members, it gets auto corrected. That seems silly.


I didn't respond to the whole black people are drug dealers comment because it is nothing short of ridiculous. I wasn't the first to ask for a fight. I was responding to a whiny lowsec bear trying to goad me into falling into a trap he and his corp were trying to set to rack up more kills.

I am not going to play those games. Did you miss that part?
Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#152 - 2014-07-25 13:55:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Christina Project
lol npc forum coward.

That's what you are. Your explanations and justifications do not
change the facts that you are acting like a coward and talking like one too.

So much for that.

The bad karma part was great btw.

BRING IT!!! :D

[i]"Don't look into another human's bowl to see how much he has ... ... look into his bowl to see if he has enough !" - Sol[/i]
Ray Kyonhe
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#153 - 2014-07-25 15:33:22 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
You said the magic word.... Hek.

You have been noted.

Thank you for your support.

Come at me, sister, entertain me a little more. Today one of your kind became another sacrifice to dire Concord - probably he couldn't imagine that Epithals can be tanked too.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#154 - 2014-07-25 15:35:51 UTC
Auto-piloting players create anger in other players who, for the most part, are stull buttmad over Warp-to-zero.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Ray Kyonhe
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#155 - 2014-07-25 15:57:46 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:

It's not a playstyle. There are no afk playtsyles.
When you are afk, you are not playing.

If this doesn't strike you as obvious,
imagine how you don't sit in front of your PC.

If you don't grinding mobs for exp, you are not playing.
If you don't grinding mobs for isk, you are not playing.
If you don't mashing buttons all that time your industry/PI jobs are worked upon, you are not playing.

..wait, which game we are discussing here?

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Petre en Thielles
Doomheim
#156 - 2014-08-01 17:23:22 UTC
Christina Project wrote:
lol npc forum coward.

That's what you are. Your explanations and justifications do not
change the facts that you are acting like a coward and talking like one too.

So much for that.

The bad karma part was great btw.

BRING IT!!! :D


I apologize for not taking the bait of someone trying to lure me into their corp's hunting grounds. Don't know what came over me.

And yes, I will never post with a real character on forums. There are no 'heroes and cowards'. There are winners and losers. Welcome to EvE.

What advantage in gaining intel does posting who I really am give me?
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#157 - 2014-08-01 17:27:16 UTC
Hate, no, I love people that autopilot in untanked t1 industrials. My favorite is to see one carrying 500m+ worth of valuables in it. Please keep doing this PLEX are getting expensive.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#158 - 2014-08-01 17:29:09 UTC
Petre en Thielles wrote:


What advantage in gaining intel does posting who I really am give me?

some semblance of self respect.

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Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#159 - 2014-08-01 22:43:16 UTC
Petre en Thielles wrote:


I will hide who I really am every chance I get. Right now I know who your are, who your corp is and what general area you do business in. You know absolutely nothing about me. What possible reason would I have for posting with a real character?


No wonder some players wish to stop NPC corporation characters from posting.

As for autopiloting (and anti-tanking), I can be tempted to undertake piracy.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#160 - 2014-08-01 23:13:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
That don't give a rat's arse whether anybody's autopiloting, ATKing, MWDing or whatever. It's just, ganking miners gets boring after a while. Not to mention, the slim profit margins compared to hauler booty....
High sec mission runners will be next, it's just a matter of time.