Science & Industry

I really do not like the idea that researching larger class ships is going to become a barrier of entry for us little producers to get into that market. Previously, it just took time, but now it is going to cost a substantial amount of isk to just buy the bpo's and then a lot more to get the research done. It is sort of a double whammy. I understand that getting the first few levels for lets say on a freighter bpo will not be insanely hard, but we are competing against people who were granted perfect bpos (or near perfect) by the change over night. This seems to look like a pretty similar scenario with the existing T2 BPO's out there lingering. Could BPO seeded prices perhaps be looked at to offset the large costs of researching now?

Before the patch hit, I purchased all of the capital part bpos and started researching them to ME 10. It is going to take a total of 4 days and cost a measly amount of isk. If I was a new player and starting to get into capital production I would have to wait much longer, and pay considerably more isk. How is that fair to newer players?

so, should we just un-release crius and never change anything because the risk someone else may benefit over someone in the future?

e: and what "baby pilot" is buying whole racks of capital BPOs?

New players can't just jump into the game and expect to fly capital ships right away. So why should new industry players expect to be able to jump into capital research and production?

Not really, it's more balanced imo.

I used to make capital bpc packs a year ago and then I noticed a sharp drop in pack prices as more and more people were getting into the market. It doesn't take long to train a couple of alts for copying, you can buy a few plex and sell it in order to get isk to put up a POS and buy some capital BPOs. That can all be done in a few months.

It can take 4 months for a new pvp player just to be able to fly a carrier and probably couple more months to train up the relevant support and weapon skills.

Yes a new indy player will have to fight harder to get into the market they want to get into, so does a new pvp player if they want to get into the ship they want to fly.

I think people miss some important point here.

in eve for start to be good at something you need 3 things :
-skills
-experience
-isk

so the fact is a new player who want build stuff still need to learn the skill as a pvp player. He have to do some misstake and take time to get the experiense ... exacrlly as every other kind of gameplay in this game. But what happen if during this time the new player can't earn money ?? for a pvp player beceause of is skills he can do pve without problem but what about the indus ??? what he can do if during is learning phase he can't earn money ? (like did you try to prod t1 fregate when you just start the game ?)

that the problem now with the new cost it will take forever to can be effecient at proding just because of the lake of isk. and no fun or too long wait or effort and the player leave (don't forget it's a game)


An other point is if he cost are so high the market will go up too and when the price will be too high less pepole will take the risk to loose their stuff, so less pvp (the heart of eve) and less ship lost so less buyer ..... You have to be blind for not see that.

"Months of work" = Finding a lab slot, clicking a few buttons then leaving it.

Too late now but I honestly would have reset all BPOs to 0/0. The "industrial landscape" starts as a flat plain with a mountain in the middle. Some of us with researched BPOs got a free lift up the mountain. The rest of you pathetic plebs are going to have to pay.