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Hyperion needs to be a comprehensive sov and supercapital overhaul

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CompleteFailure
DAWGS Corp.
Negative Feedback
#101 - 2014-07-23 00:37:39 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

I think that Crius may finally be the proverbial breaking point for high sec. It sure seems that way with the PCU.


Because 12 hours worth of PCU stats is a great baseline for making that assessment. Roll
Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#102 - 2014-07-23 00:56:22 UTC
my archon needs love pls ccp.

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#103 - 2014-07-23 02:30:52 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
the new buzzword is laser-focus



If you are refuring to the dust514 "we are laser focused on dust..." everyone skips the last big he said. the full quote was "We are lasor focused on dust for the ps3 for the timing being" that last bit is important.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

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Hicksimus
Torgue
#104 - 2014-07-23 02:50:35 UTC
I want to be perfectly clear that my corporation has no Sov or Supercapitals to overhaul and that you should leave us alone.

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#105 - 2014-07-23 06:06:23 UTC
CompleteFailure wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

I think that Crius may finally be the proverbial breaking point for high sec. It sure seems that way with the PCU.


Because 12 hours worth of PCU stats is a great baseline for making that assessment. Roll


LOL...12 hours... How about 3 months, or 6 months?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#106 - 2014-07-23 06:09:49 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CompleteFailure wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

I think that Crius may finally be the proverbial breaking point for high sec. It sure seems that way with the PCU.


Because 12 hours worth of PCU stats is a great baseline for making that assessment. Roll


LOL...12 hours... How about 3 months, or 6 months?


Good. For entirely too long highsec has strangled the other areas of space with it's unfair and unnecessary economic advantages. Letting other people actually reach for a piece of the pie for once in the game's history is not a bad thing, however much the highsec crowd is going to ball their fists and stomp their feet.

Fortunately their opinion hasn't mattered in a long time anyway.

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Reiisha
#107 - 2014-07-23 08:16:50 UTC
The sov mechanic is broken when the only fights are about the structures that determine the sov mechanic... That and it's far too easy to force project across the entire game in a matter of minutes with a massive capital fleet.

Remove sov structures and make it an activity based system, giving an actual reason to fight other fleets, not just shoot structures. Nerf force projection (jump bridges/wtz) to make distances actually matter, especially when it concerns conquering and defending space.

I believe this will automatically lead to more people claiming their own space in 0.0, and more fights as more parties are involved, as there won't be just 2 or 3 entities that virtually control the entire game since moving around their big ass cap fleet is so easy. It will even encourage more subcap fights as they will actually matter with an activity based system.


Otherwise i'd just lower some of the isk faucets and introduce resource depletion for moon mining - The latter will encourage more fights aswell as you would need to conquer new moons to retain your resource income.


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TheButcherPete
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#108 - 2014-07-23 16:32:48 UTC
lol James, with CCP's reputation for the 6week release concept, every six weeks we get a half baked patch and the main features are pushed to the next "expansion"

Guys. Crius' features were planned for Kronos. Crius had its own features, that got pushed back too.

The cycle has begun. It will be quite hard to break.

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knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#109 - 2014-07-23 16:38:44 UTC
Hicksimus wrote:
I want to be perfectly clear that my corporation has no Sov or Supercapitals to overhaul and that you should leave us alone.


I can cut you an awesome deal on some Nyxs and maybe a little SOV as well. Hit me up in game.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#110 - 2014-07-23 18:12:57 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:


Blah blah blah....

This is a promise you have made for years yet continually pushed to the side for pet projects and other easier, albeit necessary work.


I recall 2006 promises / teasing of Incarna long before 2008 requests / demands for sovereignty overhauls and sub-cap empowerment.

Maybe in the 3rd decade.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#111 - 2014-07-23 19:17:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Caviar Liberta
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Sara Tosa wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:




Player retention is still more important. Simpel things like removign empire within corp concord shield would help more eve population.

you mean, kicking out of the game 80% of his playerbase (the ones which _LIKE_ playing in highsec and will stop playing if you force them in lowsec) would help player retention?


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Nathaniel Raynaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#112 - 2014-07-24 01:06:09 UTC
i know it probably comes from a greek mythology thing and not a scifi nerd thing, but my first thought when i read "hyperion" was "the hyperion cantos was ok but i'm not sure why you'd name a whole expansion after it"
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#113 - 2014-07-24 02:16:08 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:


Blah blah blah....

This is a promise you have made for years yet continually pushed to the side for pet projects and other easier, albeit necessary work.


I recall 2006 promises / teasing of Incarna long before 2008 requests / demands for sovereignty overhauls and sub-cap empowerment.

Maybe in the 3rd decade.

Sure makes it easier for CCP to get away with breaking promises the more people just throw their hands up in resignation.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#114 - 2014-07-24 03:12:29 UTC
Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:
i know it probably comes from a greek mythology thing and not a scifi nerd thing, but my first thought when i read "hyperion" was "the hyperion cantos was ok but i'm not sure why you'd name a whole expansion after it"

I love the mythology and scenes built around The Shrike but the heavy handed religious overtones made the series hard to get through.. of course The Shrike itself is a religious metaphor, but still.

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Glathull
Warlock Assassins
#115 - 2014-07-24 03:16:26 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
the new buzzword is laser-focus


I love that one almost as much as I love "pixel-perfect."


Dear gods of buzzes and words and the combination of the two, please: make it stop.

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Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#116 - 2014-07-24 03:21:25 UTC
That roadmap actually looks very good. They are working from the bottom up and then doing completely new things once the base is good.
Nathaniel Raynaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#117 - 2014-07-24 11:24:23 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:

I love the mythology and scenes built around The Shrike but the heavy handed religious overtones made the series hard to get through.. of course The Shrike itself is a religious metaphor, but still.

i read it when i was a kid and my metaphor detection skills were not so strong, but i remember wondering exactly what problems the author had with the christian church. the author's identification with the poet character who'd written one really amazing piece and then had to resort to writing trashy books in order to keep his popularity was also kind of strange. i didn't really expect someone to broadcast "the scifi lit industry is bad and scifi lit fans have bad taste" so strongly in a book geared towards scifi fans

it also tends to lack humanity in a lot of places but so does most science fiction. the interesting imagery and novel concepts manage to distract from that, though
Hevymetal
POT Corp
#118 - 2014-07-24 11:39:53 UTC
Nah, I'd much rather see PVE content updates that have been promised for years as well.
Heinrich Erquilenne
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#119 - 2014-07-24 12:10:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Heinrich Erquilenne
If you have a gripe against supercapitals, then ask for cheap counters that would add some fun to the game, like... I don't know, T2 battlecruisers having a damage bonus against extremely slow targets or something like that. Or any low-tier hull having damage bonuses against capital ships (much like a cheap submarine can sink carriers IRL). A deployable device making logistic something like 50 to 90% less effective in the system would also have interesting consequences.

But expecting such changes within 6 weeks is clearly daydreaming.