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Querns
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#481 - 2014-07-15 17:58:24 UTC
I'd like to make a request: You can retrieve a list of teams in auction from CREST via http://public-crest-sisi.testeveonline.com/industry/teams/auction/ . Could a version of this endpoint be exposed that takes a teamID? E.g.: http://public-crest-sisi.testeveonline.com/industry/teams/auction/2887/ .

A similar endpoint exists for teams that are currently assigned to work in a solar system. E.g.: http://public-crest-sisi.testeveonline.com/industry/teams/2887/

The use case for this endpoint is to retrieve the final list of bids after the team has successfully been auctioned to a system. (This data is exposed in the main list as solarSystemBids.) If this data would no longer be available after the successful completion of the auction, then there's little point in exposing this particular endpoint.

Alternatively, if it's available, can the solarSystemBids data simply be included in the existing specific team endpoint? (e.g.: http://public-crest-sisi.testeveonline.com/industry/teams/2887/ ) This would probably be simpler, but I'm not sure what restrictions for information are in play here.

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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#482 - 2014-07-16 18:34:28 UTC
As a heads up guys, the corp/Facilities endpoint on the XML API is going to receive a change when I get back. The tax column will be removed and replaced with multiple taxBadStandings, taxTerribleStandings, etc. columns.

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Quattro Yazria
Jupiter Fleet
#483 - 2014-07-17 16:57:45 UTC
Is it possible to get the list of items in Personal Hangar Arrays with a corp or character key? I tried every endpoint I could think of, but the PSA only shows up on the Corp Asset List, without any content.
Dragonaire
Here there be Dragons
#484 - 2014-07-19 23:07:02 UTC
Quattro Yazria - Everything you own is in AssetList. You'll need the person's account/char API key to see same stuff you can as director from corp as corp key only gives you access to the actual corp stuff NOT member hangers.

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Quattro Yazria
Jupiter Fleet
#485 - 2014-07-20 14:57:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Quattro Yazria
Dragonaire wrote:
Quattro Yazria - Everything you own is in AssetList. You'll need the person's account/char API key to see same stuff you can as director from corp as corp key only gives you access to the actual corp stuff NOT member hangers.


But I'm not speaking about member or corp hangars at a station (I can see that), but Personal Hangar Arrays at a POS.

Edit: a simple example

- buy any item you don't have at the moment
- put it in your own hangar -> you can see it with the api (AssetList)
- put it in a corp hangar -> you can see it with a corp key (again, AssetList)
- put it in a Corporate Hangar Array -> you can still see it with a corp key
- put it in a Personal Hangar Array -> and it's vanished!
Dragonaire
Here there be Dragons
#486 - 2014-07-20 18:45:45 UTC
On a POS my understanding is there are only Corp Hangers and not personal so should show under corp assets. Things inside a ship show in in personal assets. I may still not be getting what you are talking about too. I know on IndustryJobs some 'interesting' things happen with BPOs and BPCs and assets so if they seem to disappear while job is running I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe knowing what kind of item it is would help figure out if it's just some where you are not expecting it or if there is an actual problem with the APIs that CCP needs to fix.

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Quattro Yazria
Jupiter Fleet
#487 - 2014-07-21 02:39:53 UTC
Dragonaire wrote:
On a POS my understanding is there are only Corp Hangers and not personal so should show under corp assets. Things inside a ship show in in personal assets. I may still not be getting what you are talking about too. I know on IndustryJobs some 'interesting' things happen with BPOs and BPCs and assets so if they seem to disappear while job is running I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe knowing what kind of item it is would help figure out if it's just some where you are not expecting it or if there is an actual problem with the APIs that CCP needs to fix.


https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Personal_Hangar_Array

It's a new structure inrroduced in odyssey, where each corp member has 50k access space. Directors can't see their contents ingame (I asked the GMs, the original devblog said they can see, but not modify it's contents, but that wasn't implemented), so if it's hidden from the API too, it can be a funny possibility for hiding stuff.
brammator
SUB ZERO.
#488 - 2014-07-21 14:49:18 UTC
I'm getting "RouteNotFound" for almost every CREST endpoint listed on http://public-crest-sisi.testeveonline.com/

Is that right?
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#489 - 2014-07-21 16:07:11 UTC
brammator wrote:
I'm getting "RouteNotFound" for almost every CREST endpoint listed on http://public-crest-sisi.testeveonline.com/

Is that right?


Because most have not been made available to anyone but is yet.

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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#490 - 2014-07-21 16:08:25 UTC
Quattro Yazria wrote:
Dragonaire wrote:
On a POS my understanding is there are only Corp Hangers and not personal so should show under corp assets. Things inside a ship show in in personal assets. I may still not be getting what you are talking about too. I know on IndustryJobs some 'interesting' things happen with BPOs and BPCs and assets so if they seem to disappear while job is running I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe knowing what kind of item it is would help figure out if it's just some where you are not expecting it or if there is an actual problem with the APIs that CCP needs to fix.


https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Personal_Hangar_Array

It's a new structure inrroduced in odyssey, where each corp member has 50k access space. Directors can't see their contents ingame (I asked the GMs, the original devblog said they can see, but not modify it's contents, but that wasn't implemented), so if it's hidden from the API too, it can be a funny possibility for hiding stuff.


Are those assets listed in the client asset window?

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Teoshen
Transcendent Innovations Incorporated
The.Spanish.Inquisition
#491 - 2014-07-21 16:32:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Teoshen
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Quattro Yazria wrote:
Dragonaire wrote:
On a POS my understanding is there are only Corp Hangers and not personal so should show under corp assets. Things inside a ship show in in personal assets. I may still not be getting what you are talking about too. I know on IndustryJobs some 'interesting' things happen with BPOs and BPCs and assets so if they seem to disappear while job is running I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe knowing what kind of item it is would help figure out if it's just some where you are not expecting it or if there is an actual problem with the APIs that CCP needs to fix.


https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Personal_Hangar_Array

It's a new structure inrroduced in odyssey, where each corp member has 50k access space. Directors can't see their contents ingame (I asked the GMs, the original devblog said they can see, but not modify it's contents, but that wasn't implemented), so if it's hidden from the API too, it can be a funny possibility for hiding stuff.


Are those assets listed in the client asset window?


It is my understanding that they are not listed in the asset window for a character nor on the asset list of the corp in game. The only way I know of viewing the contents is to go to the POS and open the array. Doing so, of course, only shows you that character's items/storage in it.
Calsik Oslo
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#492 - 2014-07-21 20:48:58 UTC
Hi!
I just find a little deficiency in CREST at "/market/prices/"
The accurate link: (http://public-crest-sisi.testeveonline.com/market/prices/)

Missing some items in this system:

Photonic Metamaterials
Terahertz Metamaterials
Plasmonic Metamaterials
Nonlinear Metamaterials

[i just write a T2 ship manufacture program, i when i want to calculate components manufacture cost price, i just got error :) ]
Max Kolonko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#493 - 2014-07-21 21:41:18 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Quattro Yazria wrote:
Dragonaire wrote:
On a POS my understanding is there are only Corp Hangers and not personal so should show under corp assets. Things inside a ship show in in personal assets. I may still not be getting what you are talking about too. I know on IndustryJobs some 'interesting' things happen with BPOs and BPCs and assets so if they seem to disappear while job is running I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe knowing what kind of item it is would help figure out if it's just some where you are not expecting it or if there is an actual problem with the APIs that CCP needs to fix.


https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Personal_Hangar_Array

It's a new structure inrroduced in odyssey, where each corp member has 50k access space. Directors can't see their contents ingame (I asked the GMs, the original devblog said they can see, but not modify it's contents, but that wasn't implemented), so if it's hidden from the API too, it can be a funny possibility for hiding stuff.


Are those assets listed in the client asset window?


Its not. I've putted it to CSM some time ago that it should be changed in game too (just like directors can view the assets in players hangar in station office)
Quattro Yazria
Jupiter Fleet
#494 - 2014-07-22 04:53:57 UTC
Max Kolonko wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:


Are those assets listed in the client asset window?


Its not. I've putted it to CSM some time ago that it should be changed in game too (just like directors can view the assets in players hangar in station office)


But not just for directors. I can't see my assets there even as their owner.... which is kind of a problem. If I have several Personal Hangars scattered in the universe, and I can't find an item in my assets list, I have to manually look in all of them?
Bubbles Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#495 - 2014-07-22 06:19:52 UTC
It's not really an API problem though.

The API shows what is in your asset list. If its not in your asset list, that is another issue.
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#496 - 2014-07-22 06:46:13 UTC
OK, so this is a much bigger problem than just the API. Thanks! :D

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Quattro Yazria
Jupiter Fleet
#497 - 2014-07-22 09:38:46 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
OK, so this is a much bigger problem than just the API. Thanks! :D


yes, but I only realized this after others mentioned the asset list :D I olny wanted to checki it with the api.

Should I report it somewhere else too?
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#498 - 2014-07-22 13:02:28 UTC
Quattro Yazria wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
OK, so this is a much bigger problem than just the API. Thanks! :D


yes, but I only realized this after others mentioned the asset list :D I olny wanted to checki it with the api.

Should I report it somewhere else too?


Would be nice to file a bug report.

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Finstrer Fred
Sam with Dingo
#499 - 2014-07-22 14:46:49 UTC
I wonder if it's possible to add the time to the PlanetaryPins endpoint when the data was created?

Maybe use the cachedUntil node for it, becaus it's useless anyway for this call?
Max Kolonko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#500 - 2014-07-23 06:01:12 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Quattro Yazria wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
OK, so this is a much bigger problem than just the API. Thanks! :D


yes, but I only realized this after others mentioned the asset list :D I olny wanted to checki it with the api.

Should I report it somewhere else too?


Would be nice to file a bug report.


WorkingAsInteded - unfortunatly, Personal Hangars are just crude hack on POCOS and you cant check pocos content in your assets