Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Exploration is easily my favorite part of Eve, but it leaves me thinking it could be so much more.

1. At last year's FanFest just before the Odyssey expansion, it was mentioned that the tools we find doing Relic and Data sites might one day be something we could keep to use elsewhere or sell. Please make this so. Give the Data and Relic modules a certain amount of storage for them to be used as needed.

2. Right now, outside of which module you use, the loot and the name of the site, there is no difference between Relic and Data sites. I'd really like to see a different minigame for Relic sites.

3. In order to find the Ark of the Covenant, Indiana Jones needed the Staff of Ra. Take this concept and use it to make Expeditions off Data and Relic sites like we now have off Combat sites. Either we find a certain item then have to find the key to using or unlocking it elsewhere or we find a small clue that leads us elsewhere on a quest for several items.

4. In a similar vein to #3, have some exploration related Epic Arcs. The agent(s) send you all around New Eden looking for special items they need.

5. I like the challenge of doing Data and Relic sites in wormholes. Why not make a few k-space Data and Relic sites have rats? Not all, just some of the most valuable ones. Somehow, I find it hard to believe they are unguarded. Maybe have a timer like Ghost sites where rats spawn and attack? This would certainly help cycle the sites where some cans (usually empty or with crap loot) were never opened. Of couse, the T3s and SOE ships would be preferred here. All the T2 Exploration frigates would insta-pop.

6. Truly unknown "Easter Eggs". With every few releases there would be new, unannounced, sites that spawn very rarely and unpredictably. An extreme idea would be that you're out exploring and find an unclassified wormhole. You go through it and find yourself in Jove space. You never saw this in any patch notes because it was kept secret. This gateway to the Jove lasts a very short while then closes. It could be days or weeks before it reopens and there is no guessing where it will be when it does. You get the idea...

I believe this post fits here as well as it does there. It is also less likely to get swept away in a wave of post about beards and doors here.

2. I get significantly better loot in high and low from Data than I do Relic sites. I seem to be in the minority on this as I have seen other posters say the same as you. Nevertheless, you went right past the point. Data and Relic sites should have different minigames.

3 & 4. Yes, they are similar in the same way the Epic Arcs are similar to Combat site Expeditions. No reason why Data and Relic sites can'thave something similar.

5. I know Data and Relic sites had rats before, I was here. I am not proposing rats in every site, just some of them to add variety. The Sleeper sites in W-Space have the minigame with Sleepers protecting the sites, no reason to remove it in K-Space. Likewise, no reason to adjust loot. Rats pay out a bounty as well as loot and salvage.

6. Jove space is there. Besides, I just used it to illustrate the thought.

This idea has some merit. I love the sig btw.

The only thing they need to do for exploration right now, is make interfaces non-repairable, that way there is actually a market for all that trash i have to haul out of data sites.

they are talking about null relic sites.
in high relic sites drops 99% t1 salvage stuff, which is nearly worthless because you get plenty of it by salvaging in missions.

I did a few COSMOS missions and sites this weekend and they were ridiculously lucrative albeit a tad boring (farming in Indar...).

They did have sort of the feel I was looking for, but not quite the quest I was thinking. So close.

But, I can't complain about the huge payout between rewards and finding a great relic farm!

this is good.
but actually, as both have the same minigame and mechanics, why do we need to differentiate from them, RP reasons notwhitstanding?
only reason I can think of is so you have to fill two mids (thus castrating your fighting capabilities) or specialize, I dont like it tho.

that's how old probe worked, you needed to fill your cargo with them.
not a nice idea when every exploration-specialized ship has a tiny cargo space.
and why remove utility from regular probes? this would reduce greatly their usefulness.

so you need sinergy from both to get an escalation, could work.

I am trying to decide if I like Relic sites dependant on Data sites. On one hand, pretty cool, on the other...it just seems clunky. Likewise, not a fan of the single use probes.

As I see it, Relic sites and Data sites should be completely different from each other and, accordingly, have their own analyzer modules. My idea is to create a different-looking minigame for one of the sites to differentiate them from each other.

I could see having to go to a Data site to get things like blueprints, data cores, RAM, rDbs, decryptors etc while the Relic sites provide the physical materials to build from the blueprints.