EVE General Discussion

When you start playing this game and you're after a few isk to buy ships and gear there isn't too many options to go about doing this, one option is to run missions, which I did and now my factions standards are screwed.

Now I'm wanting to join a friend to do faction warfare and my faction standards are too low to join him so I'm left with a few options.

I can grind for a very long time - screw that. (doing it at the moment but getting very tired of it)

I can train up another toon - screw that.

I can spend more money and buy another toon -screw that.

I can sit in on somebody doing missions and share the standings increases they get - good in theory but you have to be on at the same time as somebody that is willing to do it.

I can cancel my subsciption and forget the game excists - viable.

Why would a game create grind by putting in a feature and not warning you about the repercussions or even that it is occuring?

Do CCP make money out of this?

I can't recall any mission giving me any indication that a negative event was occuring, only that a great thing was happening when I did a storyline mission.

Did I miss something along the way?

Sorry buddy, you fell into one of those things CCP never quite polished. There are quite a few things like that.

There is one or 2 methods to increase your standings again.

1) Train social skill I forget whats it called, but the one that increases your faction standings by a flat 0.4 per skill or so. There arent too many skills, look at the social tab in the skillbooks section. This should buff your standings by a good 1.6 after 3 days of training to level 4.

2) Epic Mission Arcs boost faction standings by a lot. A lot meaning 1-2 full points. And they are quite interesting and profitable, and not too hard to do.

3) There is a corporation/service that has open fleets for mission grinding, that way everyone who does a mission gets standings boost. I hear faction gain is very fast that way. That Im not too sure how it works, but i know it exists.

4) Shooting NPCs that the faction considers an enemy gives a nice faction boost. Want to beef up your caldari standings? Go shoot NPC gallente (of course this ruins your gallente standings too). But this is also a fairly fast way.

5) MIssion grind - very slow, but every 12th mission is a storyline mission - special mission that boosts your standing by quite a lot - if you are at -10 it can give up to 4 points I think in one go. Its progressively less the higher up your standings go.

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6) If you are a new player, if you subscribed, file a ticket, beg CCP customer support to 'help you out'. I know they sometimes give back ships lost to mistakes to newer players - but they do it only once. depending on whom you speak to, they may be jerks, or you might get lucky and stumble on a normal dev who will quietly reset your standings. But i never heard them do it. But, you could try..

This in combination with a fast ship (a frigate of sorts) and hit the Cosmo agent data centers for the faction you are negative with should sort it out for you(buy the tags before you go to the agent, so you can compete the missions immediately so you can evade the faction police).

I got my gallente standing from -9.5 to -4.3 in about an hour or so .

Ignore luminous, all this should be in Dmc's plan linked above.

Is it no longer possible for him (the guy with good faction standings) to start a corp, enroll it in faction warfare and for you then to join that corp?
Or is there now a check which will kick that corp when the aggregate standings are calculated?

I don't understand why we can't buy faction standing like we can sec status. Forcing the grind is bad.

Too bad OP that there is such a warning.

Every storyline mission clearly state that it will affect faction standings.
Every faction has a clear tab called standings that show how that faction is related to the others (work for one will **** off the others).

EVE isn't holding your hand and giving out cookies.
It breaks your hand while taking your cookie and then punch you in the face while laughing bwcause you brought a cookie.

In EVE you have to do your own research on things and deal with the ancient system of actions will have consequences.

P.s. if you leave, your stuff...can I have it on contract.

Yep. It is called datacenters.

Not accusing you of this, but as a general observation the whole "this could really use a makeover" is usually a statement that "things could be made easier'.

No need to make things easier as he already has several viable options to correct things.

The NPE could be made more explicit about these things so new players are more informed about the consequences of their choices, but the consequences don't need to be changed.