These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Market Discussions

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
Previous page123Next page
 

Is PLEX crashing?

Author
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#21 - 2014-07-17 05:05:42 UTC
PLEX have swung up 2-3% in the last 48 hours, quick, someone make a new thread about it, this one is out of date!



[/sarcasm]

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

enterprisePSI
#22 - 2014-07-17 08:08:20 UTC
my feelings about plex.

The tears of the many, outweigh the tears of the few. Or the one. enterprise-psi©

Sh0plifter
Underworld Property Accounting Partnership
#23 - 2014-07-17 10:38:37 UTC
"Crashing" is often thrown around when a price drops 2% on ships/mods too. You should start a topic about the Brutix drop in lowsec too.



Buying Plex with RL money to sell, is just a means of giving ones self a boost. It is and has always still been profitable to trade around low-end items. Station trading or even cross-region trading is still viable. People do not need to buy plex. If they have no interest in trading than hopefully they run alot of missions. Manufacturing is meh, little margins if a user is new to the game and new to it. Even then they are better off just trading instead of manufacturing because that is essentially all they are doing, but for more time and he same margins or slightly worse. They have to watch the drops and rises of things to even make manufacturing worth it. So same effort, more time, same profit as trading in low-end items.
Fulbert
Industriels Independants SARL
#24 - 2014-07-17 11:02:49 UTC
Someone (EVE Central Bank?) sold off many PLEXes on a short period (07/10 to 07/12 ). This is over. The price is now increasing, again, on its former channel...
Trin Javidan
Caymen Labs
#25 - 2014-07-17 11:12:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Trin Javidan
Its because 3/4 of null is napped and the isk is being optained easyer than before. EVE is dying


(edit: souce: circumstances chineese server)
X ATM092
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-07-17 17:09:11 UTC
Fulbert wrote:
Someone (EVE Central Bank?) sold off many PLEXes on a short period (07/10 to 07/12 ). This is over. The price is now increasing, again, on its former channel...

I sold off about 400 at 810-840.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#27 - 2014-07-17 18:03:00 UTC
At the moment I am not playing (only got 1 RL life and it's currently full P) so I can't check.

But if price is dipping it's good, because it proves EvE economy is still healthy.
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#28 - 2014-07-17 19:04:39 UTC
Meep Meep
flakeys
Doomheim
#29 - 2014-07-17 19:34:58 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Elbie Klep wrote:
I can afford to lose the odd freighter out of petty cash, but to a noob that Obelisk, Orca, Hulk, or faction L4 runner is a huge investment that took them a long time to get. (1/3 of the value per month for insurance? How many noobs can afford that for large ships?) That's severe frustration.



When i started playing eve i started as most people with mining.You started mining in a frig , then a cruiser to eventually end up in the ulitmate mining ship , the apoc.So after having spend many many months i finally got myself the thing i started for , a raven , and i lost that ship within the time span of max 4 hours ''hello ecp and beybey ecp '' .

My mind was blown and i was gazing at the screen for minutes wich seemed hours ... and then it hit me , the frustration was higher then i had experienced in any other mmorpg/game i had ever played and eve got me hooked for years and years to come.


Why this story?Because that is how ''vets'' got hooked into eve but today's ''players'' mostly do the opposite.Any game that can give you a downfeeling is thrown in the corner because of it being '' too frustrating'' as you play to relax from rl stuff where as the oldschool/and to some extent the exeptional newbro plays to get the thrills wich rl lacks.

Take away the frustration from backstabbing / ganking / steeling asshats you meet in your eve carreer and you end up with a game as blend as the other mmorpgs.All of the former are playstyles i haven't done myself and i doubt i ever would because of ''eve-bushido'' but if it was ever removed from the game i would immediatly cancel all my accounts.

But then i'm sure that one day that will happen and CCP will be ''forced'' to adapt to the general boredom that is mmorpg's these days.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Angelica Everstar
#30 - 2014-07-17 22:12:35 UTC
DEATH to standard MMORPG gameplay X


Well I have also sold my personal pile of PLEX, if even a little smaller than yours X ATM092 Blink


PLEX are "crashing" for a bit at the moment, but will be back stronger than before. I have it from good sources, and own data that PLEX are going to go to a much high level before the year is out, and that will only be the beginning Bear

If this will be good or bad for the game - time will tell What?
Don't think it will change much in the end, if China's server is anything to go by Shocked

§ Current Bond AE09 1 Trillion / Acc. 4,5t ISK

ƒ Want to become a better trader ?

¢ Pls help support EVEs charities!

@EveEntrepreneur

Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#31 - 2014-07-17 22:29:23 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Elbie Klep wrote:
I can afford to lose the odd freighter out of petty cash, but to a noob that Obelisk, Orca, Hulk, or faction L4 runner is a huge investment that took them a long time to get. (1/3 of the value per month for insurance? How many noobs can afford that for large ships?) That's severe frustration.



When i started playing eve i started as most people with mining.You started mining in a frig , then a cruiser to eventually end up in the ulitmate mining ship , the apoc.So after having spend many many months i finally got myself the thing i started for , a raven , and i lost that ship within the time span of max 4 hours ''hello ecp and beybey ecp '' .

My mind was blown and i was gazing at the screen for minutes wich seemed hours ... and then it hit me , the frustration was higher then i had experienced in any other mmorpg/game i had ever played and eve got me hooked for years and years to come.


Why this story?Because that is how ''vets'' got hooked into eve but today's ''players'' mostly do the opposite.Any game that can give you a downfeeling is thrown in the corner because of it being '' too frustrating'' as you play to relax from rl stuff where as the oldschool/and to some extent the exeptional newbro plays to get the thrills wich rl lacks.

Take away the frustration from backstabbing / ganking / steeling asshats you meet in your eve carreer and you end up with a game as blend as the other mmorpgs.All of the former are playstyles i haven't done myself and i doubt i ever would because of ''eve-bushido'' but if it was ever removed from the game i would immediatly cancel all my accounts.

But then i'm sure that one day that will happen and CCP will be ''forced'' to adapt to the general boredom that is mmorpg's these days.


To be honest, considering base gameplay mechanics, EvE is worse than other gaming products on the markets be it MMOs or other types of games.

When you consider the interactions that you can have with other players in EvE, however... take this subforum for example, with all the loans and bonds and such... it's stuff like that that makes me play. Well, that and the skillqueue. Please help.
Tulber
#32 - 2014-07-17 23:47:09 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:

To be honest, considering base gameplay mechanics, EvE is worse than other gaming products on the markets be it MMOs or other types of games.

When you consider the interactions that you can have with other players in EvE, however... take this subforum for example, with all the loans and bonds and such... it's stuff like that that makes me play. Well, that and the skillqueue. Please help.


Eh... that first bit is a rather tiresome cliche. I've been around a while and i'm starting from scratch for the second time here. The mechanics are certainly rough around the edges and in some places worse than others, but the market and interconnection of the content is way ahead of every other game I've seen or heard of. I don't follow a lot of mmo's lately, but I've never seen one yet that essentially requires your interaction with the player marketplace like EVE does. Doing it all yourself in most mmos is a popular way to play. Doing it all yourself in EVE would require dozens of alts, a colition of players to give you access to all the necessary moons, and the latter essentially precludes the "do it yourself," scenario.

Really, when you get down to brass tacks, the interactions are the game, but those intereactions only take place in the context of the game. This isn't reddit with a skillqueue. It's a spaceship game with a whole lot of ways to participate in or generate unique meta content.
Sh0plifter
Underworld Property Accounting Partnership
#33 - 2014-07-18 01:31:40 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
To be honest, considering base gameplay mechanics, EvE is worse than other gaming products on the markets be it MMOs or other types of games.

When you consider the interactions that you can have with other players in EvE, however... take this subforum for example, with all the loans and bonds and such... it's stuff like that that makes me play. Well, that and the skillqueue. Please help.


Absolutely not. Eve is not your 1 thru = MMO. You dont have 30 abilities to use in a certain order. Eve is not your 1-6 MMO either. Eve is in its own field. An entire economy completely user ran. Multiple possibilities to range for active and semi-active players. You can do many things under the tense of "Do-it-yourself" but why? Most people do not play computer (internet) video games to play by themselves. They play for the interaction. The biggest problem new people see when they start up is the effort that goes into starting. You are talking getting money with cheap or free ships. Buying your basic skills and training them. Without a mentor in this game, or people to play with. Starting up sucks. You could not ultimately simplify the mechanics for this game, if they did it would draw new people as it would push people away as well. People play for the diversity and complexity of this game. Everything now, for the most part requires more than yourself. Sure you can run missions solo, you can have an arsenal of alts for production/industrial stuff. Sure you can have an alt army for hauling, trading, etc. However the bigger picture of this game is not single-player friend. People are figuring this out and getting groups together to go run through lowsec. People are figuring this out as they go base out of low-sec or nullsec systems to enjoy a riskier PVE environment. Could you solo-do it all? Absolutely, I have done it. Boring as all hell though.

For PVP, you play against new people all the time. Always a new face to be shot at.
For Industrialists you have entire corporations that work together to help build stuff. Mining operations where people sit and chat while dumping ore into orcas. What else is there to do while mining other than interact with people there?
For mission runners, alot of new people start off in corps that run missions with them. They may be salvaging stuff as they go. But they have people to play with, to help guide them.

The users who most of the time do not stick around do not put the effort into the MMO portion of the game. They try to do single-player while figuring it out. Which ultimately leads to most also uninstalling after a week or the trial.
OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
#34 - 2014-07-18 18:39:23 UTC
There are few constants in life, but one of them is that every time I come back to EVE after a few months off, I can guarantee that there will be a Bad Bobby thread and a "Is PLEX crashing" thread. I love you all.



/would like pledge 20b
Amarr Citizen 1312151005
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2014-07-19 07:38:37 UTC
The bubble is very real. The only people saying that it is not are the ones who invested deeply in plex. Just like all the morons who bought apple stock at it's highest prices right before iphone 5 came out only to have that bubble burst with in days.

The plex bubble will in deed burst anyone who says otherwise is only trying not to lose there ass on the plex they bought as investment.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#36 - 2014-07-19 08:15:04 UTC
Amarr Citizen 1312151005 wrote:
The bubble is very real. The only people saying that it is not are the ones who invested deeply in plex. Just like all the morons who bought apple stock at it's highest prices right before iphone 5 came out only to have that bubble burst with in days.

The plex bubble will in deed burst anyone who says otherwise is only trying not to lose there ass on the plex they bought as investment.


Markets are made by money and facts.

Let talk those who talk, they are irrelevant, exactly like the many mouthpieces that pretend to be relevant in RL economy.
They themselves are after something else which is not money but power by proxy (which later also allows to get money).
flakeys
Doomheim
#37 - 2014-07-19 13:25:39 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
OllieNorth wrote:
There are few constants in life, but one of them is that every time I come back to EVE after a few months off, I can guarantee that there will be a Bad Bobby thread and a "Is PLEX crashing" thread. I love you all.



/would like pledge 20b



Bobby is too much busy with making tea these days it seems Blink .

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Nemah Xadi
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2014-07-19 13:55:55 UTC
Amarr Citizen 1312151005 wrote:
The plex bubble will in deed burst anyone who says otherwise is only trying not to lose there ass on the plex they bought as investment.


And I suppose anyone who says what you're saying is only hoping to create a temporary dip so they can pick up more PLEX cheap? Maybe because you feel you didn't get in the game early enough?

There was a slight crash and now prices are heading back up again. People did not panic sell en masse, because there is no reason to. PLEX lasts forever, and the people who hold PLEX tend to be thinking long term and do not need to sell off their stash in order to get some ISK.

This is why the "bubble" can keep inflating indefinitely.
Tulber
#39 - 2014-07-19 16:28:59 UTC
Nemah Xadi wrote:
People did not panic sell en masse, because there is no reason to. PLEX lasts forever, and the people who hold PLEX tend to be thinking long term and do not need to sell off their stash in order to get some ISK.

This is why the "bubble" can keep inflating indefinitely.


TIL the market for PLEX is perfectly inelastic. Lol
Amarr Citizen 1312151005
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2014-07-20 07:41:55 UTC
Nemah Xadi wrote:


This is why the "bubble" can keep inflating indefinitely.

Right until is burst. People invested to much into plex now they are trying to undermine the fact that there is a bubble and it can and will burst.

Previous page123Next page