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Age of EVE universe...?
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Artenso Vestindal
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#1 - 2014-07-18 13:38:19 UTC
I was flying around, doing next to nothing and clicked on star info... It was orange star... Age 60 billions years Shocked Made me wonder about several things.
How could possibly orange star survive 60B years?
second, how old is EVE universe if its a home of 60B years old stars?
And last, what is the oldest star in EVE, where is it located, what star is it and mainly how old is that one?
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#2 - 2014-07-18 13:51:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Morwen Lagann
EVE takes place around 25,000 years from current day.

A lot of the numbers associated with planets and stars and other celestials are randomly generated, and since nobody at CCP has taken the time to perform a sanity-check on them (or is likely to), it's probably best to take most of those numbers with a grain of salt. Smile

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Tavin Aikisen
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#3 - 2014-07-18 23:15:42 UTC
Another thing to consider is the nature of the wormhole itself. Did it displace humanity through time and space, or just space?

That may help your imagination and suspension of disbelief for what Morwen has pointed out. :)

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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#4 - 2014-07-21 11:11:32 UTC
What Morwen says. Even if we assume the wormhole displaced us into a far flung future, billions of years ahead, the star & planet data still keep violating nature-laws.
Stars with a density that would make a black hole get envious, solid rock planets with the density of foam, moons & planets travelling at fractions of lightspeed and all that.

In short, it's best to take all those numbers with a big grain of salt.

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Artenso Vestindal
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#5 - 2014-07-21 17:32:53 UTC
thank you for replies, still it would be interesting to try to find an oldest star in EVE Blink

for me, i haven't seen any older than that 60,7B one, SN9S-N in Esoteria region
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-07-21 17:47:09 UTC
Artenso Vestindal wrote:
thank you for replies, still it would be interesting to try to find an oldest star in EVE Blink

for me, i haven't seen any older than that 60,7B one, SN9S-N in Esoteria region

That's pretty funny considering our universe is estimated at 13B years. But then our universe isn't the EVE universe, I guess.

Quite empty for a 60B year old cluster, though. You'd think there'd be more than 1 sentient species. Only humans and human variants at work here, strange.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#7 - 2014-07-22 04:41:23 UTC
There's other ridiculous stuff too, such as planets that do not move at all.

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Velarra
#8 - 2014-07-30 04:44:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Velarra
Eve's universal constants are probably a bit off due to [a mixture of good intentions + rapid development processes to be iterated on later] as well as [game play] reasons likely due to the notion that a pure space simulation might not be as amusing as Eve can be with its realism vs. fun-space battles concessions.

Optimistically one might speculate however:

Eve's Universal Constants relative to our universe are a bit off

&

The Eve Gate Wormhole opened up to a different region of a universe.

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ref:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_constant

http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Constants/
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#9 - 2014-07-30 08:31:51 UTC
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
What Morwen says. Even if we assume the wormhole displaced us into a far flung future, billions of years ahead, the star & planet data still keep violating nature-laws.
Stars with a density that would make a black hole get envious, solid rock planets with the density of foam, moons & planets travelling at fractions of lightspeed and all that.

In short, it's best to take all those numbers with a big grain of salt.


When I see numbers which don't make sense, I just quietly assume cosmic radiation caused an error in my ship's sensor systems. Big smile
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#10 - 2014-07-31 08:05:33 UTC
Tavin Aikisen wrote:
Another thing to consider is the nature of the wormhole itself. Did it displace humanity through time and space, or just space?


Think time-travel doesn't really fit in the EVE's general pragmatic simple style and theme. Let's leave that to the Doctor.

Also, what Morwen and Jandice said.
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Wingzero Mileghere
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-07-31 21:13:45 UTC
Leopold Caine wrote:
Tavin Aikisen wrote:
Another thing to consider is the nature of the wormhole itself. Did it displace humanity through time and space, or just space?


Think time-travel doesn't really fit in the EVE's general pragmatic simple style and theme. Let's leave that to the Doctor.

Also, what Morwen and Jandice said.
Artenso Vestindal
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#12 - 2014-08-07 10:50:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Artenso Vestindal
Or maybe original wormhole from Earth took us not to another place in universe but to completely another universe, much older than ours with its own natural laws, where vacuum doesnt really exist (like slowering down after inactivation of AB/MWD or straightening ship hull when it stops), wormholes appears at regular basis and orange stars are more stable than neutron stars. Collapse of a wormhole between universes might also emmit a huge ammount of energy that was involved in fabric of wormhole (something like radiation from nuclear fission) , like collapse of EVE gate did Big smile
Ayumi Aki
Chi Omega Sorority
#13 - 2014-08-17 09:10:19 UTC
Artenso Vestindal wrote:
Or maybe original wormhole from Earth took us not to another place in universe but to completely another universe, much older than ours with its own natural laws, where vacuum doesnt really exist (like slowering down after inactivation of AB/MWD or straightening ship hull when it stops), wormholes appears at regular basis and orange stars are more stable than neutron stars. Collapse of a wormhole between universes might also emmit a huge ammount of energy that was involved in fabric of wormhole (something like radiation from nuclear fission) , like collapse of EVE gate did Big smile


The physicist Brian Greene has implied that if you go far enough along the fabric of spacetime, you'll simply reach another universe. (I'm no scientist, so please forgive me if I totally mess this up). That in a sense, reality itself is infinite. So yeah, the cluster that the EVE Gate flung humanity into could be way older than the universe you and I live in right now, because it may be its own universe.