EVE General Discussion

The same reason I drink, nobody likes a quitter.

I've never understood the Dinsdale & Co rhetoric about how these changes negatively effect anyone. Perhaps if you are one of the few who held a lock on a couple of lines in the Forge next to Jita, yeah your going to have to change your game, since all the people who couldn't get to a line there will now be ramping up your costs. But for everyone else, things look to be improving. Of all the guys I talk to who manufacture, most are optimistic (and this includes on guy who manufacturers next door to Jita, but across the region boundary), with at the absolute worst, they are looking to see how everything shakes out in reality since all the hypotheticals are exactly that (especially as I give it a month before someone comes up with a job-install-cost monitor (what are the odds on it appearing on Dotlan)).

Fun... Just lots of Fun.

There is something about killing or dieing when you know the other person is a real person and not a NPC. So PvP forever.

But i think its easy to lose yourself in a game like this. I can't be too serious. I can't be in a corp or fleet that is too afraid to die. I need to be around people who even after getting piped bombed by RnK or the russians dropping 400 typhoons on us, can laugh and have had fun at the end of the day. One of the fleets even got dropped by smart bombing titans!

These fleets are mostly the public fleets of Spectre Fleet, Redemption Road and RvB Ganked. They are run by good people, great FCs and we just have a good time without expecting everyone to field a 2B t3 with perfect skills. If you can't fly the doctrine (if there is one) tackle is always welcome. Some of the vets go tackle anyway because its not the easiest job in a fleet.

Spectre Fleet even has free ship roams sometimes with Rifters, Probes, Atrons for example and we even do the odd Rookie ship roam.

Eve is just a great game. There is no ISK win button, there is no 10 year old character win button, there is no ship win button. In any given situation so much can happen. That is why i love PvP, even when i lose.

I'm feeling like im in the mood to write, and as I have said in other threads, i'm a 10 year vet and I feel its my damn right to respond to any thread I want, deal with it.

Over the years I have been motivated to play by various things, a few cause I was pissed, and others cause of stuff. I'll give you a small run down of my 11 or so 'winds'

1) Mining- when I first started eve, I got bored of missions and did not feel like I could pvp yet. after the first week of trial (this was in 04 shortly after the Earth and Beyond sunset announcement) a friend told me to try mining, I figured what the hell, and got hooked instantly.

2) about a year later, I was in CLS was feeling rather bored in that big group of people and one of my fatale flaws was kicking in (I have to know whats going on, drives me nuts when I don't) I had made a corp with a few friends preivious but they jumped to CLS, so shortly after the form of Ascendant Frontire, I decided I was not ready for 0.0 life, so I jumped ship and formed Net 7. That was wind number 2

3) about 6-7 months maybe less after I formed net 7, I was struggling a bit with recruiting and day to day corp running. I used to listen to eve radio (currently I don't but that's personal) there was a spot open for a DJ, so I took it. I was DJReaper for about a year.

4) Shortly after my falling out of eve radio (it's complex) my corp moved to the Derelik region, there was a group of anti pirates there so we teamed up with them and had some nice pvp things.

5) the wind in my sails started to putter, my then girlfriend and I were planning our wedding (she is currently my wife) I was getting caught up in that, and my corp and DJTF (Derelik Joint Task Force) decided to from an alliance, so until my wedding and month long honeymoon, that was a wind. Brotherhood(space)(space)of(space)(space)steel was born

6) coming back form my honeymoon, there was a shakeup in the alliance, the guy who took leadership bailed, so my sister corps ceo took power and moved us to the kari pipe in prov, at the time owned by UK, I came back, took over and reorganized... note kids, a confederation run by a senate with no leader mmm sucks.

7) wars, battles, and switching sides to cva took its toll. IAC offered to let us move to Catch, so we took a few systems there and the plan to kick Fix out of qurious and give BoS systems was formed.

8) a year later, RZR, and the noth, with IAC and AAA tossed fix out of Qurious. BoS was given systems in the Z-UZZN area and the Z-UZZN station. We were there for nearly a year. Then BoB and some regional srive caused BoB to reassert its power.

9) After BoS disbanding, we mergeing into and watching IAC fall apart, a second failed alliance, I was bored. Then I heard about the rise of a nex expantion and wormholes. This lite a small spark and I formed TLB.

10) slowly getting bored, Apocaryto was released. My corp was one of the first to settle in a wormhole, we were in a c2. After a few weeks we said screw it and moved to a c5.

11) While in wormholes, we got an offer from Vanguard. to move to outter ring. So we took it.

12) Dominion came and one of my directors on his own took a system in cloud ring, so I went with it,

13) after dealing with the climate in cloud ring, we found an offer from atlas. to rent space in ugh I forget the region name.. its near immerse, anyway.

14) Not really a wind, after running 30 pos' alone (befre fuel blocks) dealing with drama, losing my nyx, being scammed out of 20 billion (Thanks cursed alliance) and my son on the way, I took a year break, thinking i'd not come back.

15) I logged in to change skills and got work that IAC had been taken back from Hancho, and was going to reform, I said what the heck, and joined my old sister corp for wind #15

16) Got a bit bored, so decided to leave IAC (now starting to go mothballed) and rebuild my own corp

17) was in wormholes, getting bored and one of my directors robbed me blind. (that's what I get for not being active and forgetting to strip roles)

18) lost my c5, and looked for a new home

There you go, 18 reasons I have played eve. The one that keeps me here is my friends. I know lots of people all over the place, and its honestly the community and players that keep me here

For the record, I think I have only gone 1 month without paying for eve in 10 years... yea i'm and addict ;)

*Takes out sword and chops Tao's head off because 'there can be only one!!!!!'*

I read that and wondered if I rolled an alt in my sleep to post that lol. What you wrote is pretty much the Creed of a true Sandbox PVE player.

I do some pvp (usually for the sake of my friends who love pvp way more than I do), but the real thrill of EVE for me is being a super kick ass 'Evasion Gazelle" on a plain full as "ganker Lions" lol. It's like being Indiana Jones, i'ma get my treasure, and you CANNOT stop me lol.

It's why I react so negatively to the people who are lobbying for a safer game, they are trying to indirectly nerf MY fun by directly nerfing the folks who are trying to screw with and kill us.

I say people like that should man up and fight back (by running away at high speed) rather than trying to get the game changed.

The challenge and depth of the game keeps me playing.

Playing Eve is like golf... no one will ever shoot a perfect score.
Playing Eve is like motor-racing... no one will ever turn a perfect lap.
Playing Eve is like fly fishing... even a perfect cast may not catch a fish.

No one will ever win EVE. You may control parts of it, but there is no finish line, no dragon to kill at the end.

I am now bored silly playing other video games.

Hearing (self made) important people, like Mittens or the current CEO of CCP q.q

Sources:

http://eve-radio.com/media/podcast-download (summer of Rage)
http://eve-radio.com/news-compendium/eve-radio/1616-funkybacon-deals-with-mittani-podcast

That and eve being a glorified chatroom makes me log in once awhile, tbh Star Trek Online has more shiny weapon's fire.

For some reason which I can not explain I keep choosing Activate PLEX on those yellow rectangles. And they don't seem to end.....

I've said it before and I'll say it again: For all its flaws and all the bullshit, there is no other game like this one.

It's an mmo that rewards by time instead of effort. It puts much less pressure on me to feel like I have to grind for the new best in slot items.

I also enjoy the necessity for cooperative play. Being social within a game is the most fun for me because I get to share the experiences with people from all over the world. I feel like I become a greater citizen of the world by being introduced to issues and interesting topics from varying perspectives and by many different people all around the world.

More importantly I find that we can all laugh together. It's a great feeling to understand how lucky I am to be able to almost personally know people from all over the world. Of course, it's difficult explaining to people in real life that I have a friend from Germany, Australia, England, France, etc.

For example, just the other day, I was talking to new pilots and I came across a Russian guy. I can not speak Russian and he could not speak English. However, with the power bestowed upon me by Google Translate, we were having a lengthy conversation. How awesome is that? Within seconds I am speaking to another person in their own language.

Of course other MMO's have this same characteristic, but EvE has the allure of difficulty and riskiness that I just enjoy. The mind games and declaration of war threats are very fun to throw around and dodge.

TL;DR: Lots of different people. Most of them are awesome. I like the PvP style and the all or nothing risks.